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I'm sure you will be ok Mario! Some of the oil changes IMHO are excessive.....every 2,500 miles? As far as I can remember all my motorbike engines ran up to between 4,000 to 6,000 miles before needing an oil change. Perhaps it's because its a big old crude American V twin and not a sophisticated German Boxer? I really am looking forward to you competing in the car...in the UK it does not fit into any of the classes for racing due to engine size.
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Mario, why not just drive home with the oil & filter on board? That way you can either get a garage en-route to change it for you or do it yourself & dispose of the oil?
Luck has nothing to do with it, just plan & do it. Life is all about adventures & the positives it brings, not worrying about the minutae..
If you wish, I could deliver the car for you.
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Mario The 50 mile oil change is done before you get the car so I would not be worried about it.
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Some of the oil changes IMHO are excessive.....every 2,500 miles? As far as I can remember all my motorbike engines ran up to between 4,000 to 6,000 miles before needing an oil change. I have opined in other threads about just this point. Most bikes are set up with a 4 quart tank but the M3W has a six quart tank. That's 50% more capacity and will take longer to alter the chemistry. I'm betting that 4,000 to 6,000 miles will be fine in moderate conditions. I've just garaged mine for the winter and changed the oil since I do not want older oil (4,000 miles!) with its higher acidity to dwell in the block for the next four months. The other factor is heat on a V-twin. The lead cylinder on a bike is in front and the aft cylinder is behind the lead receiving hotter air. On the M3W both cylinders are out in front in a very optimal cooling situation. I bet we may all be surprised at how well these engines hold up!
What's your mileage? Who cares. Is it practical? See #1. What happens when it rains? You get wet.
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I'm sure you will be ok Mario! Some of the oil changes IMHO are excessive.....every 2,500 miles? As far as I can remember all my motorbike engines ran up to between 4,000 to 6,000 miles before needing an oil change. Perhaps it's because its a big old crude American V twin and not a sophisticated German Boxer? I really am looking forward to you competing in the car...in the UK it does not fit into any of the classes for racing due to engine size. Yes, I own two bikes with somewhat big engines (FJ1200 '87 and XJR1300 '06) and both are serviced (oil/filter change and overall inspected) every 5.000 kms, but these are japanese air cooled inline fours so I assumed it would be a different story with the S&S V2. I look forward to racing it too. I'm very curious about the "laptime" the M3W will achieve. Mario, why not just drive home with the oil & filter on board? That way you can either get a garage en-route to change it for you or do it yourself & dispose of the oil?
Luck has nothing to do with it, just plan & do it. Life is all about adventures & the positives it brings, not worrying about the minutae..
If you wish, I could deliver the car for you. I think I'll take the risk of doing the 2.500 kms after the 50 miles service. About bringing stuff with me, I think I'll bring a few mechanical pieces yes, I'll ask for advice in the factory about what I might have problems getting quickly from generic suplliers if needed. In Portugal I'm very much on my own so it is wise to have a few uncommon spares in my garage. But I'm talking parts so unless the oil and the filter are of an uncommon specification I don't plan to bring any of that with me. And I thank you for your offer, but to bring my Morgans home from Malvern is an important part of what subsequently makes them "mine". So thanks but no thanks 
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Quick "on the fly" update. I'm at Malvern, spent the day at the factory. After a long meeting sorting out all my car details I was shown a Brooklands car firing up. Fell in love, changed my order. Green Brooklands it is !  Will write more about it after I return home. Fantastic day, pity the weather didn't allow a test drive.
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Well Done you!
Any news on dates for collection, at all? I thought all the Brookies had already been built..?
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Many Congrats:)) Hope you really enjoy your new car - no ...i know u will:))
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Thank you guys!
Back to Lisbon, here's a quick summary of what happened up there in Malvern. First we were treated to a factory tour. Been there, done that, but this time I had my kids with me and it was great to show them where their father's beloved car had been made. And even for myself it was nice to see it all again. Guide was Robert (can't remember his last name, sorry) and we had a very informative tour because students from a nearby school were present with their teachers, and their subject of interest was resistance of materials, so he took care and pride in showing what materials Morgans are made of and how it all works together.
Next up I was supposed to have a test drive in a 3 wheeler, but sadly the weather didn't allow it. This means that I'm going to buy a car I never tried before, and that the first time I'll get my hands on one it will be on mine, the day I collect it. I just hope everything works out fine and that I don't suddenly find that I can't drive it because of some reason. I'm not a tall guy and I think I read somewhere that the car's pedals and driving position can be adjusted to the driver, so I hope that can be done the day I collect the car and before I start the long voyage home. Would hate for it to be a bad experience.
Anyway ... after the factory tour I had, with my wife and son, a long meet with Nick Baker, to sort out the details of my car. Nick is a great guy and was very patient with us because we started the meeting still without a clear choice made on many car details. We progressed, with his help, and a looong time after - with my wallet reaching a state of prospective emptyness by the way -I say "oh, and I already know it is expensive, but I do want the Brooklands wheel".
He replied something like "and the exhaust?" When I hesitated, he asked "Did you ever hear the sound it makes?". My negative makes him invite me to hear one. So he takes me, my wife and my son to a diferent room where two Brooklands 3W and one Roadster sit. And he fired up one of the 3W (the green one).
And the ground, the walls, the Windows, the floor itself started to shake. And, needless to say, my heart shook too. My wife laughed, my son gasped and I just thought: "I.WANT.THIS"
And that was it. Trying to be rational about it, I asked him to tell me what was the final price of the car we had been tailoring, with everything I wanted fitted into it. When he told me, I realized the Brooklands car wasn't THAT much more and that the decision to buy this special edition car would not be totally irrational. And so, with full agreement from the mrs., and noticing also the enthusiastic beaming eyes from my son, I decided to buy the Brooklands (Green) 3 wheeler!
The fact that it is green makes me want I had picked a diferente color for my +4 (now I'll have two green Morgans). But it was either that or chrome now, and I really don't like the chrome car.
Also, and this in reply to Steve, According to Nick they still have a few slots available for Brooklands orders, and they are now being built to 2014 specs, with one only exception, they don't have the openings (louvres?) at the rear of the car.
One other importante thing. According to Nick, the car's first service is after 1.000 miles. And the ECU cuts the engine at 3.000 rpm until you reach that mileage or until you reach 19 hours of use (if Nick or anyone from Morgan reads this and I'm not being correct, please correct me).
To end, I did use my trip to Malvern and the factory to buy a few parts I needed for my +4 (small things I could carry) and while doing that I met a well known and esteemed forum member, Mark Evans. When I told him about falling in love with the Brooklands exhaust sound, he did mention that other TM members also enjoyed their own (specially) noisy three wheelers, so I guess I'm in good company.
I'll be picking the car up there in August. And I will scare English, French, Spanish and finally Portuguese folks on my way down. And I will enjoy it. LOL.
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Great news.congratsi heard there is a new dealer in lisbon..or caiscas..my parents bought a house in portogul but is cascais in lisbon ?but we yet to furnish it..do you need a motorcycle license to drive a m3w in portogal?
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