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I thought Aero racing used to offer side exit tail pipes for 4/4 & +4 ?.

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Hi there
Just been playing with the idea of putting a side pipe on my 1.8 duratec 4/4.
Anyone any thoughts or ideas if it would be any good?
Also looking at changing the exhaust manifold and cat. I have ones from a +4 duratec and wondering if they would work. The manifold especially looks like it was thought about a bit more.
Many thanks
Gaz


Hi Gaz
Have a look here. https://www.flickr.com/photos/116051653@N07/12250686393/in/set-72157640417787664

Side exit fitted to a 4/4 Sport on standard down pipes and Cat no ECU changes checked on the dyno to insure safe running 134bhp... from stock checked on dyno 114bhp.

From a Racing re-packable Morgan V8 with Intake pipe to suit my down pipe. Sounds good too!

Cain


Hi Cain

I put a similar Librands sport exhaust pipe on my 4/4 with no changes to CAT or manifold. Do I understand from your post that you are now getting 134bhp with same set-up. I do not think I saw any performance increase. I also note you have some protection on the wing where the exhaust exits. I just put a chrome tip on the exhaust outlet. Do you recommend some real protection there?

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Cain: I never thought of the +8 box as the 1.8 4/4 uses the same diameter pipes as the roadster and +4 where as the 1.6 ones were slightly smaller diameter. As Garret pointed out with the protection u fitted, is it necessary or just for the eye?

Cat 302: they do still I think, but I was curious if it made a difference before I bought one, and second hand would be cheaper hopefully.

Many thanks for the help guys


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Originally Posted By inde101
Hi there
Just been playing with the idea of putting a side pipe on my 1.8 duratec 4/4.
Anyone any thoughts or ideas if it would be any good?
Also looking at changing the exhaust manifold and cat. I have ones from a +4 duratec and wondering if they would work. The manifold especially looks like it was thought about a bit more.
Many thanks
Gaz


Hi Gaz
Have a look here. https://www.flickr.com/photos/116051653@N07/12250686393/in/set-72157640417787664

Side exit fitted to a 4/4 Sport on standard down pipes and Cat no ECU changes checked on the dyno to insure safe running 134bhp... from stock checked on dyno 114bhp.

From a Racing re-packable Morgan V8 with Intake pipe to suit my down pipe. Sounds good too!

Cain


Hi Cain

I put a similar Librands sport exhaust pipe on my 4/4 with no changes to CAT or manifold. Do I understand from your post that you are now getting 134bhp with same set-up. I do not think I saw any performance increase. I also note you have some protection on the wing where the exhaust exits. I just put a chrome tip on the exhaust outlet. Do you recommend some real protection there?

Regards

Garret


Hi Garret

I also fitted a K&N in the standard box and moved the air intake to the grill, and yes 114.5 bhp to 133bhp (sorry stand corrected on bhp) and the torque figure 98 lbf-ft to 102 lbf-ft.
The protection is not for the Silencer, its for the harness latch when it falls out of the door grin2
I have no added Heat protection only the standard heat reflective stuff fitted at the factory from new along where the original exhaust ran.

So if you have no factory fitted heat protection I would fit some.

Kind regards
Cain


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Originally Posted By inde101
Cain: I never thought of the +8 box as the 1.8 4/4 uses the same diameter pipes as the roadster and +4 where as the 1.6 ones were slightly smaller diameter. As Garret pointed out with the protection u fitted, is it necessary or just for the eye?

Cat 302: they do still I think, but I was curious if it made a difference before I bought one, and second hand would be cheaper hopefully.

Many thanks for the help guys


It was the same silencer 'Can' as a +8 with 4/4 sport pipe work.


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Originally Posted By Cain
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Originally Posted By inde101
Hi there
Just been playing with the idea of putting a side pipe on my 1.8 duratec 4/4.
Anyone any thoughts or ideas if it would be any good?
Also looking at changing the exhaust manifold and cat. I have ones from a +4 duratec and wondering if they would work. The manifold especially looks like it was thought about a bit more.
Many thanks
Gaz


Hi Gaz
Have a look here. https://www.flickr.com/photos/116051653@N07/12250686393/in/set-72157640417787664

Side exit fitted to a 4/4 Sport on standard down pipes and Cat no ECU changes checked on the dyno to insure safe running 134bhp... from stock checked on dyno 114bhp.

From a Racing re-packable Morgan V8 with Intake pipe to suit my down pipe. Sounds good too!

Cain


Hi Cain

I put a similar Librands sport exhaust pipe on my 4/4 with no changes to CAT or manifold. Do I understand from your post that you are now getting 134bhp with same set-up. I do not think I saw any performance increase. I also note you have some protection on the wing where the exhaust exits. I just put a chrome tip on the exhaust outlet. Do you recommend some real protection there?

Regards

Garret


Hi Garret

I also fitted a K&N in the standard box and moved the air intake to the grill, and yes 114.5 bhp to 133bhp (sorry stand corrected on bhp) and the torque figure 98 lbf-ft to 102 lbf-ft.
The protection is not for the Silencer, its for the harness latch when it falls out of the door grin2
I have no added Heat protection only the standard heat reflective stuff fitted at the factory from new along where the original exhaust ran.

So if you have no factory fitted heat protection I would fit some.

Kind regards
Cain


Hi Cain

Many thanks for this useful information. Would you mind telling me what K&N filter to fit and if you have any detail on how you moved the are intake to the grill, I would be grateful if you could share some details. seems like a quick and neat fix for some extra horsepower!

With regards

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I had side pipe on a kent Engine(very used) used to colour one side of my face with oil .that was a long time ago..
Much more sensible now -have just (today) driven from Sweden in my +8
with very short straight thru silencers and am totaly deaf !

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Hi Garret

For 4/4 Sport with Morgan standard air box K&N part no K/N33-2877 for ford focus 2 1.4l 1.6l 2.0l C-Max1.6l

The Air intake some ting like this
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performanc...-stepped-outlet

But I can't find the invoice it came of flee bay, mine seems to measure externally 100mm x 175mm with off.

I used the standard hose from air box (mounted under box) and moved it to the front grill area. Remove grill to fix air intake to the air duct.

Zip tie to grill when fitted. or make a bracket that is held in place by grill
thinking

https://www.flickr.com/photos/116051653@N07/13949400158/

Check on dyno everything is working to the correctly.


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Anyone know of any used pipes going? The one that fits the roadster/+4. Mustn't be too bashed.


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Originally Posted By Cain
Hi Garret

For 4/4 Sport with Morgan standard air box K&N part no K/N33-2877 for ford focus 2 1.4l 1.6l 2.0l C-Max1.6l

The Air intake some ting like this
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performanc...-stepped-outlet

But I can't find the invoice it came of flee bay, mine seems to measure externally 100mm x 175mm with off.

I used the standard hose from air box (mounted under box) and moved it to the front grill area. Remove grill to fix air intake to the air duct.

Zip tie to grill when fitted. or make a bracket that is held in place by grill
thinking

https://www.flickr.com/photos/116051653@N07/13949400158/

Check on dyno everything is working to the correctly.


Sincere thanks for this great advise. Saturday jobs sorted I think! Regards. G


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