7 members (Sir Percival, +8Rich, DavidR, Sharkey, DaveW, Alastair, MDS61),
274
guests, and
48
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums34
Topics48,340
Posts812,966
Members9,203
|
Most Online1,046 Aug 24th, 2023
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8
New to Talk Morgan
|
OP
New to Talk Morgan
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8 |
Hi, My question is ,do you know what the problem could be on my +4 1991 M16 Rover engine, after wintertime i start the vehicule to go to the MOT, on my way it was like the engine stops running or gave a bad ignition. checked the battery switch because I had to times problems withe no electric. checked also the sparkplugs and leads but these seems OK, cuold it be the electric fuel pump çfor 6 months no running), when my wife drove with me she said there is a louder noise from behind?? What to do?Does anyone recognise these .
Best regards, Bart+4
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 14,976 Likes: 1
Member of the Inner Circle
|
Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 14,976 Likes: 1 |
Does it stop and re-start or just stop?
If it stops and cannot be restarted it sounds like fuel or battery issues. Have you checked the battery voltage?
Can you carefully remove the fuel line and check fuel is making it to the engine (capture in a jar)...
When running is the alternator OK?
Just some thoughts....
Richard 1976 4/4 4 Seater
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8
New to Talk Morgan
|
OP
New to Talk Morgan
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8 |
Hi Richard, I changed the fuel filter already and also checked distributor cap and rotor. One thing I have to say, during wintertime I changed my kingpins and clean up the complete front suspension , and I must say that the car was standing in front on 2 axles for about 5 months!!! so I think that the petrol was at the back of the tank.(Stupid from me I know). After remounting the front suspension I put the car in front down and start the car, it is than that i heard a different noise from the fuelpump!!!!!!
The car can run for 1H30 minutes OK, and than when driving 120KM/h it feels like the car is on 3 cilinders, like you are loosing power, for a couple of seconds after this it runs good again. Yesterday I start the car and when the tachometer is going down to 800/900 TRM the car stops running and the fuelpump was running on /off (a squeeze noise).
Best regards, Bart Bonnaerens
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,866 Likes: 167
Roadster Guru Member of the Inner Circle
|
Roadster Guru Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,866 Likes: 167 |
Rotor arms can be faulty from new, so it might be worth trying another, or using the original. Are you sure there's no contamination in the tank?
DaveW '05 Red Roadster S1 '16 Yellow (Not the only) Narrow AR GDI Plus 4
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 456
Learner Plates Off!
|
Learner Plates Off!
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 456 |
If this car runs a Rover 800 fuel pump to match the engine, then they haven't got the best of reliability records. I don't know much about Morgans (I'm here to learn), but I'm quite clue'd up on Rovers. I does sound like the pump if powers down without misfiring.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,255 Likes: 2
Talk Morgan Expert
|
Talk Morgan Expert
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,255 Likes: 2 |
It will be a compatible Rover pump I think but they either work or they don't (usually).
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8
New to Talk Morgan
|
OP
New to Talk Morgan
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8 |
Hi all, Thanks for the information and replies, i changed over the weekend: 1)Fuel pump(new Bosh pump)there was still the original Bosh pump in the car. 2)Fuel filter (checked also for dirt but could not find). 3)Distributor cap and rotor arm. first i changed point 1 and 2 and do a testdrive: everything OK After this i hanged also point 3 to be secure and did a long testdrive, car runs back like it should be. So thanks for all the info. Bart+4
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 9,285 Likes: 69
Needs to Get Out More!
|
Needs to Get Out More!
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 9,285 Likes: 69 |
Is the fuel pump outside the tank? If it is then put an in- line filter between the tank and new pump to protect it. I had fuel pump failure on the old 4/4 and did this - car was 1992 and low mileage with previous owners in 4 years prior to buying it so it had been idle too long! Replaced Bosch pump with Bosch new. I also drained and flushed the tank. It's amazing what I filtered out of the petrol - bits of black crud and jelly- like stuff. Also put new rubber fuel hose in with new stainless hose clamps and painted the pump mount plates etc- seemed silly not to when replacing the pump and the bits were off. No issues after that.
Plus Four MY23 Furka Rouge
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 26,747 Likes: 419
Member of the Inner Circle
|
Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 26,747 Likes: 419 |
I did the same on my old MG Midget when the pump failed. A cheap & easy preventative measure
JohnV6 2022 CX Plus Four 2025 MG ZS EV aka Trigger
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 5,107 Likes: 56
Black Rat Charter Member
|
Black Rat Charter Member
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 5,107 Likes: 56 |
Its a good idea to drain a fuel tank after a long lay up as the fuel can "go off" it starts to turn to a jelly like substance which can block the system. You are better off to drain down before the lay up.
Keith 2013 narrow bodied + 4 Ruby.
|
|
|
|
|