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There was a post earlier on the member wishing he had stumbled upon this site before buying his M3.
I echo that sentiment. A few more issues and mine will be a goner, and as much as I like the 4 wheel versions of the Morgan's I no longer have any faith in the company period.
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Perhaps a lifetime warranty for the first owner of all MK1's would be a good gesture from MMC.
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Formerly known as Aldermog Member of the Inner Circle
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AGA, makers of very traditional cookers based on about half a tonne of cast iron have gone through a "M3W Experience".
In 2010 they announced a new "Total Control" model that used complex electronics to make a power consumption of 27Kw work with a 30Amp socket.
It had not been sufficiently well tested and they started failing, we got to know the service engineers well. After about 18 months AGA issued a "rectification kit" which was almost a total re-build. They added a 10 year guarantee.
Since then it has performed as originally described. I understand that overseas AGA forced this on their distributors with a threat that if they didn't cooperate they would be sacked and threatened with legal action for bringing the good name of AGA into disrepute.
I think Morgan should learn from this.
Peter,
66, 2016 Porsche Boxster S
No longer driving Tarka, the 2014 Plus 8...
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Interesting to see that you guys with new cars seem to have the same problems that I have had with my old 2012, but you have them after a shorter period of use !?!
Mine has 13 000 km under the wheels.
Stig S
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Reading this makes me very pleased to have returned mine. As an aside, Tim Shmee of YouTube fame has just bought one. He is a very high profile character and his inevitable problems will reach a far wider audience.
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It will be interesting to see how the M3W will go in Australia once it finally reaches design standards set by the government. We do not have the Morgan agents here that are everywhere else, and in Western Australia it can be 200 - 400km between towns. I believe the rules for imported vehicles in America are a little different, and dont have the same stringent import requirements that we have. I found this out with my Mazda, as it had a recall in the states because the manafacturer is responsible for issues as they occur and they have to fix all vehicles up. In Australia the warranty works a little different because they only fix your car if it breaks they dont have to notify all owners it is an issue. Not sure if this applies to low import number vehicles like the M3W in the US. If I was buying a low production bespoke type vehicle, I would not have stumbled onto this site, it would have probably be the first place I found with a good old fashioned Google. These issues have been around for 2 and a half years, the fact people still keep buying the car even though there are enough warnings out there says something. Had people stopped and refused to purchase faulty goods, something may have happened sooner. If you dont think the car is sound, then dont buy the bloody thing its not rocket science. Dont blame it on the salesman or on the factory propaganda, blame it on your lack of research. 
Graeme: 2011 +4
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It will be interesting to see how the M3W will go in Australia once it finally reaches design standards set by the government. We do not have the Morgan agents here that are everywhere else, and in Western Australia it can be 200 - 400km between towns. I believe the rules for imported vehicles in America are a little different, and dont have the same stringent import requirements that we have. I found this out with my Mazda, as it had a recall in the states because the manafacturer is responsible for issues as they occur and they have to fix all vehicles up. In Australia the warranty works a little different because they only fix your car if it breaks they dont have to notify all owners it is an issue. Not sure if this applies to low import number vehicles like the M3W in the US. If I was buying a low production bespoke type vehicle, I would not have stumbled onto this site, it would have probably be the first place I found with a good old fashioned Google. These issues have been around for 2 and a half years, the fact people still keep buying the car even though there are enough warnings out there says something. Had people stopped and refused to purchase faulty goods, something may have happened sooner. If you dont think the car is sound, then dont buy the bloody thing its not rocket science. Dont blame it on the salesman or on the factory propaganda, blame it on your lack of research. Unfortunately a lot of prospective buyers will be unaware of TM and most "non Morgan" websites generally say how great the M3W is. Top Marks to Z for starting this thread and tempting other M3W owners to express their true feelings on M3W ownership. Personally buying anything new from MMC at a premium price then having to spend numerous trips to a dealer to "get it fettled" is not something I'm up for. At these prices I expect the car to be 100% sorted when it's handed over and if it fails the dealer moves heaven and earth to keep me happy, most of them want my money again and again. BTW my ownership of a pre owned Mk1 Roadster was trouble free other than it losing coolant in the garage due to several of the "high tech" jubilee clips needing regular "tweaking" . It did mist up the gauges and the hood leaked , but "they all do that" and added something to the ownership experience :-))
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I have said nothing to claim the product is not faulty, and as I have never driven one, nor even seen one I do not believe I am qualified to make that call. What I did say was that you should not put the responsibility of purchasing a dodgy product all on the product. In this age of technology there is many ways to research prior to purchase and you should do that for any product large or small before you spend your hard earned aquiring it. I was not refering to the product in my email, I was refering to the actual chosing to buy it. 
Graeme: 2011 +4
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Originally Posted By: Digimap
If you dont think the car is sound, then dont buy the bloody thing its not rocket science. Dont blame it on the salesman or on the factory propaganda, blame it on your lack of research. soapbox
I also did not see TM before I purchased my M3W and all the available literature in the public domain at that time sang the praises of it. None of the shortcomings that we have all experienced were mentioned in any of the road tests etc.
What about the "Sale of Goods Act", Merchantable Quality" and "Fit For purpose" which the early M3W's certainly were not.
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Originally Posted By: Digimap
If you dont think the car is sound, then dont buy the bloody thing its not rocket science. Dont blame it on the salesman or on the factory propaganda, blame it on your lack of research. soapbox
I also did not see TM before I purchased my M3W and all the available literature in the public domain at that time sang the praises of it. None of the shortcomings that we have all experienced were mentioned in any of the road tests etc.
What about the "Sale of Goods Act", Merchantable Quality" and "Fit For purpose" which the early M3W's certainly were not. The question I then ask, is " Why did you buy it?" Did the salesman threaten you, did he hold you to ransom, take you to the bank at gunpoint and force you to withdraw your money? I bet he gave you a test drive and your own enthusiasm did the rest. If you purchased a house that was full of wood rot and you didn't notice until after the sale, whose fault is this? I leave this definition as my final line. The phrase caveat emptor arises from the fact that buyers often have less information about the good or service they are purchasing, while the seller has more information. Defects in the good or service may be hidden from the buyer, and only known to the seller. Thus, the buyer should beware.
Graeme: 2011 +4
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