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I am amazed that MMC have not been had up in court over the 3 wheeler. Mine is in the process of being sold, as I do not want the list of inevitable problems to strike when it is out of warranty. I was interested in peoples reaction to this list of faults, that so many of us are suffering from, when I was chatting to various people at the Thrill on the hill event.
It is my opinion that Morgan could be had up on at least 2 things, one being “not fit for purpose” and the other being “not of merchantable quality”.
The problem as I see it is that the contract of sale is with the dealer, who in good faith sold me a car, unaware that this huge list of problems were about to occur. So under UK law one must take the dealer to court, they in turn can drag MMC along with them.
But people are too polite to drag them through the courts. The attitude of “I have a plus 8 as well and it has never put a foot wrong” is not the right one, this car should be built to last, and it is not. Unfortunately the build quality is low and the design has a lot of floors in it that should never have made it through R&D. I was told that people who but the 3 wheeler like to “tinker” with it, this may be true, I have classic cars to “tinker” with, and do not expect to have to do any more than put petrol in a new car, not have to have a load of major, safety critical components wear out in 2000 miles and for Morgan to then have the cheek to tell me that there is a better part now available, you can have it, but only if you pay for it yourself.
As I have already mentioned mine is going soon (I hope) but this will not be an end to the matter as far as I am concerned. If enough owners got together and took legal action, on mass, MMC would have to do something. If this were Toyota, they would be re-calling all the cars that may be affected, as we have seen them do in the past.
This whole situation with the 3 wheeler is not good for anyone involved in it, especially us, the customers. This could, or should even, tarnish, if not ruin Morgan’s reputation.

Unfortunately you, me , and others do not have "the true Morgan Spirit" , ie we pretend that "character" is a decent excuse for a sub stand product!

Whilst enough folk buy em why should MMC change ?

The strap line on here made me smile , but I don't own a M3W , or anything else from MMC at the moment !

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The sad thing about this us that there is a lot of money out there for a Morgan that is as reliable as any other premium product. When I look at the money that MMC has thrown at GT3 , Gumball etc I cry. I speak as someone who put their first month's wages down as a deposit on a 4/4 in 1975 and took delivery in 1983

Unfortunately I lost the rose tinted glasses along the way and in 2014 expect something that works as intended

100 years of motoring perfection!?

Would appear that MMC have more resources in the PR office than the Eng Dept , but question it on T M and expect a baseball bat round the head as it's not the done thing to question MMC on here , helmet on!!!

I ran away from my residence to board this boat, I guess in advance that it was a crazy boat, the first thing before taking possession of mtw was to buy a briefcase tooling rating us and other metric to put in the trunk. I was immediately rewarded after 4 days (short circuit cable + Frame), since I look in the mirror if I am followed by a vehicle with a flashing light and two men dressed in white looking to me warfarin.
Working in the automotive profession and mechanical questions asked my dealer does not masked my existing problems during my purchase.
I corrected an assembly problem when reassembling my torque damper that has been mentioned Ever this forum elsewhere, the splined shaft flywheel takes an important game and make a noise like the torque damper.

I have a 4 wheeled Morgan, not a M3W.
After a ride in a M3W my wife thinks it would be fun. I agree.

The M3W was released prematurely seemingly because a certain Mr C. Morgan said it was ready for sale, without bothering to check with anyone else that it was so. But he was the MD/CEO, so that was fine. People in that position do this sort of thing.

Mr C Morgan is no longer part of the Morgan motor Company. I applaud this decision.
The management team is now left trying to pick up the pieces and I feel for them.

They sold close to 1000 M3Ws before the full horror of the lack of final development engineering became clear. The issue is now damage limitation. To recall and re-build all the M3Ws sold would destroy the M3W Company, a subsidiary of the parent. That would help no-one.

From a brutal corporate perspective it is better to have a few hundred disillusioned and angry M3W owners than no M3W Limited.

As has been said, the contract of sale is between the dealers and the customer. Angry customers can, and some probably will, sue the seller. If the seller fails because of the compensation awarded that protects M3W Limited and so Morgan. But it helps no one.

This is a sad no win situation. There is no good solution. There are now dealers that will not take pre 2014 M3Ws as part exchange cars or buy them because they can't accept the risk. I understand that.

So I'll probably buy one of the 2013 M3Ws at a knock-down price from an unhappy owner. I'll do so in the full understanding that I'm buying a car that has "issues", but they can all be solved with money. Is this taking advantage? Perhaps.

Commerce is little better than regulated, disciplined conflict and so the world goes on and so will Morgan. In all conflicts there are winners and losers. That is how it has always been.

Nice analogy but you have to admit, the likelihood of rot on a brand-new house that the carpenters just finished packing up their tools on would be extremely low.

Using nice round numbers, if Morgan produced 1,200 M3Ws at a low estimate of 50,000.00USD each, that would almost indicate minimal gross revenues of $60,000,000.00 (sixty million USD). Although we are holding the crap end of the stick, selling "rotten" cars has turned out pretty well for them as I see it especially when they don't have to replace the rotting boards. I suspect their warranty claims that they have dealt with hasn't put a dent in the big number. As said before, if you are close to the factory, you got a better chance of getting help as even birds know not to sh:t in their nest.

There is nothing you can say that will convince me that what they are doing to their customers (i.e., the good people here and some of us bad ones) is right.

Z

You could not be further from the truth with your assumption, and I am not a salesman of any sort.

My whole point in keeping stiring the pot on this topic, is nothing to do with being a Morgan owner or as someone said an apologist for Morgan. The point I am trying to make, is that I am sick of the continual posts on this forum of people whinging about the bad choice they made in jumping in and buying a M3W and not one of them seems to have the courage of their conviction and either sell it or take Morgan to court. It always comes back to that poor bloke "Someone". Someone should sue, someone should stand up to Morgan, someone should complain.

I have made several bad choices in my life, but you get on and do something about it and learn from the experience, yes you can let other people know of the problems and how you may have fixed them, but if the kitchen gets too hot, get out.

Look at it like the share market, you made a bad call, sell get out and stop the bleeding, put what you have left into something else and try and recoup. Dont keep threatening your broker and then stay in until the share value is zero.