I want to tell you that all the European manufacturers are meme price reimbursement morgan with working time given by the motor vehicle manufacturer that resembles time factory assembly chain, why the majority of farm dealers eyes on any problems that customers do not realize, as he prefers to be repaired is no longer guaranteed in my proffession some models have default oil leak for résoudent I spend on average 35 hours / 40 hours the manufacturer pays only 25 hours, it requires in addition a special person to write files with multiple photos guaranteed to have the agreement of management construtor, every year we have people expedite by the manufacturer (the stasi) just check multiple folders warranty, if the person who handles warranty wrong suplémentaire X% more on a folder factory warranty you deduct X% on any money-back guarantees that you must to last year, when he realizes that things have been certainne forget to be in charge warranty is not taken into account for your défence guarantees on the wrong issues. The sometimes very fréquament as DEALER refuses or gives a very remote date and shows. I Thank btw my work colleagues and hierarchy of not reporting all oil leaks they voyent on vehicle warranty, otherwise I'd Still meme work year-round, a shot of brake cleaner and the leak disappears time of the interview, only report the leak is out of warranty. and I'm not talking about all the other problems with the new model cars and new parts supplier constructor economically poor country.
After speaking to various US dealerships about the issues with my M3W, there was a common thread among them. Morgan does not allow enough reimbursed repair time for a proper repair and therefore, the dealerships, understandably, don't won't to go that route as it is a money losing proposition for them before they ever turn the first bolt. For example, I was told that Morgan only allows 8hours shop time on a compensator swap and that several competent mechanics (some of which provide service on other high-end European sports cars) are seeing three times the hours for the swap. No matter how much sympathy the dealerships have for you, they can't afford to absorb Morgan's responsibilities.
Z
When my old one went back to the factory end of last year I was told that the dealers were allowed 12 hours for the compensator, with practice / experience the factory may have got it down to 8 hours. If the dealers couldn't do it in that time then they were more than welcome to attend the factory to be shown how to do it.
I know not that practical for overseas. Surely though a training web seminar could be setup or even a video to help the oversea's dealers resolve the technical difficulties they are having in repairing the cars within the allocated time given for warranty items. Also manufacturers never give the total time, it always has been trimmed in their favour.
I know how you guys feel, I purchased a Leyland P76 when they were first released in Australia, even big companies produce a whole line of lemons.
a little thread drift.
I knew someone who worked for Leyland at the time and the P76 was a very similar disaster to the M3W. It and labour disputes forced the closure of Leyland Australia. The final straw, according to my friend, was when management announced to the workers that the company was in trouble and could not survive any more strikes. The unions said "You can't threaten us in that way" and promptly called a strike. Management responded by announcing the closure of the company. Probably inevitable but that is exactly what happened.
At the time I thought the Force 7 (which never entered production) was a great looking car. Amazing how one's taste changes with maturity.
I too have been sitting on the sidelines waiting for the recurring issues to be properly addressed and rectified by MMC before parting with my hard earned money. I desperately want to be able to make a "safe" purchase as I cannot afford to tinker and fiddle with issues from across the pond in the early days/months/years of ownership.
I'm to the point now where I'm seriously considering buying a 1950's era auto as, from the looks of it, it will likely be MORE reliable and cheaper to maintain stateside than a new M3W.
On a related note, and with no disrespect (false caveat, I know), how on earth can it take a "competent mechanic" approx. 24 hours to fix ANYTHING on this vehicle? MMC themselves probably didn't spend 24 labor hours building the damn thing to begin with. Aren't we effectively talking about a glorified motorcycle here with an exposed engine no less, something that a shady tree mechanic should be able to reasonably expect to tear down and rebuild on their own. Certainly it has to be more straightforward than most makes of cars/motorcycles. Are we talking about real labor or book labor? I know many mechanics that can charge 20+ hours of "book labor" in a days work. Is that the real issue here? Even 8 or 12 hours of a qualified professional's real labor to simply remove and replace any one part on a car as seemingly simple as a M3W would appear to be extremely generous. Am I alone in this line of thinking? Otherwise, I'd say while we're laying it on, we add in a request for a design change/fix for whatever's causing the difficulty in replacing the compensator or ANY component on this vehicle to the growing list of items that should be addressed while we are raising our concerns.
Matt E46 ZHP
"I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks."
Perhaps we should send the M3W to Nigeria, where they can strip a car and build a new one in 12 hours. At least thats what they do to cars stolen in the UK and shipped to Nigeria in containers.
I too have been sitting on the sidelines waiting for the recurring issues to be properly addressed and rectified by MMC before parting with my hard earned money. I desperately want to be able to make a "safe" purchase as I cannot afford to tinker and fiddle with issues from across the pond in the early days/months/years of ownership.
I'm to the point now where I'm seriously considering buying a 1950's era auto as, from the looks of it, it will likely be MORE reliable and cheaper to maintain stateside than a new M3W.
On a related note, and with no disrespect (false caveat, I know), how on earth can it take a "competent mechanic" approx. 24 hours to fix ANYTHING on this vehicle? MMC themselves probably didn't spend 24 labor hours building the damn thing to begin with. Aren't we effectively talking about a glorified motorcycle here with an exposed engine no less, something that a shady tree mechanic should be able to reasonably expect to tear down and rebuild on their own. Certainly it has to be more straightforward than most makes of cars/motorcycles. Are we talking about real labor or book labor? I know many mechanics that can charge 20+ hours of "book labor" in a days work. Is that the real issue here? Even 8 or 12 hours of a qualified professional's real labor to simply remove and replace any one part on a car as seemingly simple as a M3W would appear to be extremely generous. Am I alone in this line of thinking? Otherwise, I'd say while we're laying it on, we add in a request for a design change/fix for whatever's causing the difficulty in replacing the compensator or ANY component on this vehicle to the growing list of items that should be addressed while we are raising our concerns.
In the age of the "GroPro" web cam you would think that MMC would video the relevant tasks in real time and send to all dealers and get rid if all the arguments about how long it takes to carry out an upgrade
I have reached the point in life where the matter of purchasing an M3W is eminently feasible; especially in view of the engaging nature of the M3W, and my thirst for its uniqueness. However, I(nor, I suspect, many of us here)have not arrived at this point by being profligate with our monies, or foolish with our investments. I nearly purchased Pete Larsen's #13, and now regret not having done so in favor of the Morgan. I had been hoping, since the earliest production days, that the issues would be properly addressed, and have been disappointed to the present in the status of the machine. I would add that I am an ex- +8 owner, and the needle is deeply encroached in my Morganist's vein, enough to have made me fly myself to Santa Fe in order to catch a glimpse of CM and his bride during the Gumball run. Now recently retired, I am fully enjoying shop activities that include building of experimental aircraft; basic lathe, welding, and sheet metal work with the assistance of an excellent mentor. I have decided to adopt a project that, albeit conceptual, may yield a vehicle that can be as stunning and radical as the M3W, at a fraction of the cost, and without the issues of steering, drive train, and bevel box problems that have so bedeviled an otherwise brilliant concept. The project is based on an early "3" Super Sports, and I am taking the liberty of including some enclosures. I do feel that the parent Morgan company will redress the problems, and bring an improved version to its following in the foreseeable future. Regards, TN
I will now beg the readership's indulgence, as the above enclosures are rotated 90 degrees, and given my inept abilities with the computer, I cannot de-rotate. I can wield a mean TIG welder, but the keyboard is my nemesis. TN
the factory may have got it down to 8 hours. If the dealers couldn't do it in that time then they were more than welcome to attend the factory to be shown how to do it. 
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