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New EU regulations effective November 1, 2014. ESP will be mandatory for all newly registered passenger cars and light commercial vehicles.
How will this affect Morgan Cars?
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ESP can only work with ABS. The only MMC cars with ABS are the Aeros, and they don't, as far as I know, have ESP.
It is strange: all the web hits for this development seem to be variations on a press release issued by Bosche, makers of the ESP systems. I can find no "Offical" statement from the EU or VOSA.
It is very probable that this actually applies only to new models type approved after today. But it would be good to know more.
MMC live on ancient EU type apprvals, so unless and until they introduce a totally new model they can continue. Type approvals don't "expire" as long as the vehicle has the same chassis, steering/suspension and vasic body structure.
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Thank you for clarifying the subject.
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New EU regulations effective November 1, 2014. ESP will be mandatory for all newly registered passenger cars and light commercial vehicles.
How will this affect Morgan Cars?
//Bosse
I suspect that any type approval will be under EU Community Small Series Type Approval and that ESP will no be a mandatory requirement, although I have not trawled through it.
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Is that like the DRL regulations with new cars not having them on although law was started in 2010/2011, so only new designs of vehicle.
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Is that like the DRL regulations with new cars not having them on although law was started in 2010/2011, so only new designs of vehicle. Yep
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Extra Sensory Perception? Could be useful in deciding what 'school run mum' is going to do next! Gerry.
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it's a bit different in Australia.
In early 2014 in one state, Suzuki were stopped from selling their base line Jeep the Jimny as it did not have ESP.
In July they fitted it to a test car and got it type approved over in Australia and will now deliver the Jimny with ESP in Australia as from October.
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Extra Sensory Perception? Could be useful in deciding what 'school run mum' is going to do next! Gerry. Be difficult, when most of them don't seem to have a clue what they are doing anyway!!! 
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Extra Sensory Perception? Could be useful in deciding what 'school run mum' is going to do next! Gerry. Be difficult, when most of them don't seem to have a clue what they are doing anyway!!! Oh so very true
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