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by Morganmike - 21/09/26 07:54 PM
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Ok, disregard my comments, as they don't apply. I don't believe we have the laws you have in the UK re trailer weights, nor are any of my Morgans new enough to have engine driven oil pumps in the gearbox. (Not in Moss Box, or Meadows box, etc.)
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Mark
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It states clearly in my 1999 and 1994 +8 handbooks as a CAUTION: If the vehicle is to be towed with the rear wheels in contact with the road and the engine not running, the propshaft should be disconnected.
The oil pump in the gearbox is engine driven and damage may result.
I recall reading a similar statement in my 4/4 Sport handbook. I can vouch that the LT77 does not like to revolve when being told after destroying a gearbox on a Range Rover under tow.
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LT77 and R380 gearboxes have oil pumps. The LT77 in particular has a fibre oil pump that is naturally weak and subject to breakdown due to swarf.
Towing a Rover engined +4 or +8 for any distance is not to be recommended unless the propshaft is disconnected.
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I'll second that!
Fortunately, not from direct experience...
Graham (G4FUJ)
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when towing with the rear wheel on the ground the prop shaft spins the gearbox main shaft, the lay shaft remains still.
The gear box relies on the lay shaft spinning to throw oil onto the main shaft. so towing for some distance will destroy the gear box.
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Come on Guys think a little harder...... No need to remove the Prop !!!!! Or get a tow truck......!!!!!
Come on a star for who can tell us how to get round this !!
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Take out the plugs and tow it in gear?
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Prop the clutch fully in with a stick and leave in gear :-)
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