I remember flying in them when the ATC used them: Tangmere about 1965.....they were not exactly performance!
Glide angle of brick, but wonderfull when u are a cadet.Learned to fly on slingsby tutors at Kirton in Lindsey. One of the best times of my life. :xmasgrin:
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Ok, so I've got a wheel too many for this thread, but I have opinions on this.
I also admit that there may be an element of chauvinism in this (the Spitfire being Southampton's greatest contribution to the war effort and the liberty of the free world).
If we'd only had Hurricanes, we'd probably have lost the war. The Spitfire was superior in every respect, and better than the ME109 in most. Thank God for R.J.Mitchell. Thank God for his brilliant creation; the Spitfire.
Well I agree with your sentiment. However the hurricane could out turn the 109. My main thrust was about asthetics. To me the Spitfire is almost too beautiful. The Hurricane looks like a fighter. I should of course have included the Mosquito as this has to be a firm for the three wheeler boys. And what about the most forgotten of all the brilliant Westland Whirlwind.
If we'd only had Hurricanes, we'd probably have lost the war. The Spitfire was superior in every respect, and better than the ME109 in most. Thank God for R.J.Mitchell. Thank God for his brilliant creation; the Spitfire.
That's true. However, if we had had only Spitfires, we would definitely have lost the War: there were not enough of them at that stage. While the Spitfires could take on the best German fighter escorts, it was mostly the Hurricanes that knocked the other stuff out of the sky.
Although my late Father was a wartime Spit pilot and loved the Vb and IX that he flew - he also flew a captured Me 109 he would have swapped any of them for a FW190 in standard or long nose as both of them outperformed all aircraft and Mustangs which he also flew.
The Hurricane carried the main event during the war, the Spit is charismatic though and will forever remain the one in the publics memories.
So maybe call it a F...e :santarudy: :xmascheers:
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My mother was working as a telephone engineer at RAF PEMBREY the day the FW190 landed there thinking he was in France. It helped the british to develop the Spitfire to match and beat it.None of my family would beleve her when she got home from work. Before my time. (just}
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My mother was working as a telephone engineer at RAF PEMBREY the day the FW190 landed there thinking he was in France. It helped the british to develop the Spitfire to match and beat it.None of my family would beleve her when she got home from work. Before my time. (just}
The FW 190 was a great design: the big advantage the plane had was pilot position: he sat semi reclining with his feet, by RAF standards, very high. This allowed him to withstand far more "G" than any allied plane.
As with other German designs released after the war started they had too few aircraft, too few pilots and latterly, insufficient fuel.
A good example is the ME 262 which had completed most airframe development by early 1943. With good project management they could have had the ME262 in service late in 1943 or early 44. Imagine trying to invade with hundreds of ME262s defending France....
The proof of the design was finally made a few years ago when a number of new build replicas were made and flown with modern engines....
The Morgan 3W is hand made of steel and wood, just as the Hurricane. True that the Spitfire was the darling of the air war, yet we must recall that the Hurricane bore a great deal of the early brunt. Simply stated, the 3W is to the Hurricane as the Jaguar E-type is to the Spit. Not to detract from either's glory, but apples to apples. I am looking forward with great anticipation to 2015, when my Morgan 3W will be keeping company in my hangar with another iconic airplane made of steel and wood: the Pitts Special. Both of these machines originated from the genius of HFS Morgan in England, and Curtis Pitts, in the colonies. Regards, TN