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Hi Lorne

There are so many points that I could address but I really dont have the time. Of course in my inimtable style I cannot resist pointing out one or two

Firstly:


Once again a slight twist to emphasise a point that wasnt there?

Wolfie actually said:


IMHO of course, Wolfie was enquiring why I was so grumpy, as due to your selective editing your obnoxious (again IMHO of course) comment was erased.

Secondly:


I don't know Lorne??? what 'digs' must have I been referring to? Read others comments if you are still unsure.

Thirdly (oops sorry guys ):



For those who cant be bothered to look for my comments (dont blame you guys) I quote below my "Hostile attack" on Simon form that PH thread



Poor Simon must have had nightmares for weeks after that. Maybe it was the follow-up equally "hostile attack" that really pushed poor Simon to the edge:



Nuff said?

Fourthly



Yes I saw that in your 'helpful' response to AsboJohns helpful comment....


Fifthly (I really am sorry now :


But what I actually said was:


Of course my comments in the brackets could have confused you, but more likely I think, as an intelligent guy, you saw what I said but somehow it ended up being misquoted

Lastly


The poor 'innocent' Lorne, confused again.

I am "getting at" your selective editing. Mis-quoting to suit your own purposes. You went to the effort of quoting my whole tirade *, but also ensured that you erased your crass and careless comments to Asbojons response to play the 'little boy hurt' and engender sympathy.
(*yes I accept it was a tirade - but before you quote the dictionary definition, the 'angry' rather than 'violent' type)

However I appreciate its pointless, I realise, you have done it before, you will do it again. I called you to task on it here before and on PH but a fruitles task on my behalf as it's is your greatest weapon (wry smile) followed of course by your 'poor little Lorne' act (sigh)


Anyhow, it would seem you have more time on your hands than me (an opportunity for you there for a sly subtle dig ). So I will leave it there.

We will never see eye to eye. I will admire your knowledge and experience; and I do read it often including on Emog and Gomog (I am regsitered ). BTW The instruments you posted up on the thread in question are truly beautiful. Not sure about the polished engine block, a bit 'hot rod' for me, but the instruments and cluster are stunning.

Anyhow, as I said, I will continue to read, and if I feel you have said something I dis-agree with I will respond in my usual manner. I will try not to be rude but I will undoubtedley be firm in my response.

Cheers

Boshly (the Great)

I do not really want to get too tied up in this. But for Boshly to claim Lorne is anti Aero is simply nuts.

He has always been positive about the car. As far as I can recall without exception - but also without rose tinted galsses

Boshly is perhaps confusing alleged criticism of the Aero as car, with Lorne's occasional view that the focus and investment on the Aero rather than the Trads is not good business sense. It's a view. Agree or disagree with that view as you wish.

I would agree that Lorne's comment about coming here for advice on dashboards could have been better judged. But does that really warrant the bullying tirade he has received?

Anyone here want to talk about Morgans?

Brian

(long term eMog and NBC member - gave up on Mogtalk)

As some of you know, I have been in London all day at meetings, followed by dinner, and have just got home and read the correspondence on this thread. I know that Simon has been similarly tied-up at an event in London and is not home yet (we have fairly recently exchanged messages!).

Whilst my first reaction was to delete the first two posts arising out of the PH thread, on reading further down and all the other comments, I think that as people have posted their views it is important that there is a proper airing and record of the issues, which are to my mind about more than just Aero's and 'Trads'. However, I intend to keep my own counsel and not join in the general melee on this occasion.

Like Brian V, I am or have been a member of each of the major forums on Morgan's and I think that each of them fulfils a specific need and that each has a particular culture or bent (TM has always been, and I hope it remains so, slightly anarchic).

Within this broad church of Morgan enthusiasts, we should be able to recognise that nobody has a patent on knowledge, nor does any website, either on Morgan's or anything else come to that and it is only by recognising our disparate views and treating each other with a modicum of respect, that we can have a sensible discussion of our own hobby, or is it an obsession, the Morgan car in all its forms.

As it is getting late, I will finish this diatribe now and hopefully tomorrow we can arrange to move these posts off the thread on Roof Clips for Series I's to a backwater somewhere more suitable and then we can get back to talking about Morgan's in all their ramifications.

Brian

P.S. Whilst I really love the MIG clock and the dashboard, the engine bay is a bit too jewel-box for my own taste!

Hi Brian

Thanks for your reasoned and concise comments.

It is interesting that your opinion varies from mine on whether Lorne is anti Aero but as you have pointed out elsewhere on another point that is purely an opinion garnered from reading many of his posts. The same also applies to my opinion of his anti MMC view which you I think allude to also. However you may well be in a better position to judge his stance better than me due to more interaction with him than I have had, and I respect that. I can only judge by what I have seen, rightly or wrongly.

I am extremely tolerant of many different views and am usually the first to accept that 'we would beg to differ' after all if we all had the same views and tastes life would be so boring. What I do object to is underhandness and subtle digs which I believe are too frequent. You (and others) can judge based on past posts (here and on PH) on whether I have called that right or not. Again it's my opinion and I can be right as well as wrong.

Lorne is a very knowledgable and useful guy to have around. He has friends in the Mog world I'm sure. He could well be areally nice guy though I have not met him. I'm sure many have been greatly assisted by his contributions. I respect that. However my opinion is as it is though I am prepared openly to have it changed if I can be shown to be wrong.

I understand that you don't want to get too involved and appreciate your "anyone want to talk about Morgans" line also. I will after this say no more or respond no further on this or other threads.

Again thanks for your reasoned post

Andy

..my comment was a conversational one just to find out what had made Boshly so upset and wasnt in the context that Gomog has sought for it.

I’ve not meet Boshly face to face but have had conversations with him over the phone, and I can only say that I’ve found him to be a very helpful person. I only hope that this can now be put to bed, so that we can all get back to the business in had that of the love of Morgan’s.

Gyp