Talk Morgan Forums Morgan Sports Cars Maintenance & Servicing 1996 Plus 4 Rear Brake Shoes

I'm struggling to match the existing Lockheed shoes on the rear of my +4.
All the TM wisdom and on line suppliers take you to the EBC 6380 set which are for the Ford Transit.
I received a set of shoes yesterday from EBC and found that they don't match/fit the existing shoe.

On the shoe mounting the self adjuster the pivot pin drilling is too large being about 9.5mm whilst the existing pin diameter is only 8mm.

Also the distance, centre to centre of the pivot pins, including the fixed pin is 5 mm greater than existing Lockheed shoe. The adjuster will not mount correctly.
It would also appear that the shoe retaining drilling to take the twist pin are in a slightly different position.

The Lockheed shoes carry the stamped numbers -3341-825 and 3341-821
The wheel cylinder is the double piston version that would be expected on a 1996 car.

Any come across this mismatch before?

Try MGRV8 93-96
Or LGV van 89-05

I've only got an APEC no. SHU 138
But you may be able to get a cross reference

Simon @ Mulfab

Mintex no. might be MDB1673

Yes, you describe exactly the problem I had on my 2002 4/4 (same shoe). I purchased a set of Green Stuff Pads from EBC (EBC6380) a year ago. I even swapped over the adjuster arm etc. and still struggled to get them to fit and basically gave up as the old ones had load of pad left. I keep meaning to send them back but a bit late now!!

If anyone recognises the reason they don't fit and whether they are any good for you then please PM me..

This is where folks like Melvyn Rutter come into their own. Ring him up, tell him what you want, and he sends it to you overnight. There's nothing the guys don't know about what goes on what model. Outstanding service.

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