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dodgyken #281627 16/06/15 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By dodgyken
As much as the Disco can feel indominatable there are those days (last night being one) when you shake your head in dispair at the quality of JLR products.

After a day in for service it has an engine fault, which was then fixed the next day (and a basket of Italian goodies left as a present). And last night it has decided to have a complete paddy - transmission fault - which bizarrely may only be a brake bulb out - or the battery on the blink. The latter was on charge last night and yet the fault was present again this morning!

I will do a full battery disconnect tonight and then a bulb check.

The Morgan is more reliable!!!


Interestingly, we had some guests come for one of our cottages last Friday. There had been a bad accident enroute which gridlocked many of the roads and theiir 3 year oold 3 series BMW had a dickie fit in the traffic. It started off saying there was an automotatic transmission fault which then progressed to telling there was also a traction control problem followed by ABS malfunction and whole liteny of toher warnings and flasshing lights. They finally made it here and called out BMW breakdownn the next day who carried out some tests including downloading something that was sent off to BMW head office to analyse the fault. It came back there was a faulty tyre pressure sensor on one of the wheels although the tyre pressures were fine. Apparently, it triggered off a chain reaction of faults all of which were OK apart from this sensor! New sensor ordered. somestick


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It'll suit you Peter....in the good old days, Vice Chairmen always drove a Jag wink


Agreed...
And the Chairman a Roller or a Bentley...perhaps a step too far.

I'll wait and see what a half day drive brings.

In the mean time I've got a drive in a Tesla. No serious interest, far too big and bling, but it has to be done!


I've always rather liked the style of the Tesla and an interesting car from a technical,point of view. I sat in one a few weeks ago and really disliked the large iPad like centre panel!


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Originally Posted By Roger-Cheshire
Interestingly, we had some guests come for one of our cottages last Friday. There had been a bad accident enroute which gridlocked many of the roads and theiir 3 year oold 3 series BMW had a dickie fit in the traffic. It started off saying there was an automotatic transmission fault which then progressed to telling there was also a traction control problem followed by ABS malfunction and whole liteny of toher warnings and flasshing lights.


If you want to see a BMW christmas tree - you should see the dash when the x-Drive control unit fails!!!


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Interestingly, we had some guests come for one of our cottages last Friday. There had been a bad accident enroute which gridlocked many of the roads and theiir 3 year oold 3 series BMW had a dickie fit in the traffic. It started off saying there was an automotatic transmission fault which then progressed to telling there was also a traction control problem followed by ABS malfunction and whole liteny of toher warnings and flasshing lights.


If you want to see a BMW christmas tree - you should see the dash when the x-Drive control unit fails!!!


Come to think of it they mentioned the X-Drive was showing a fault too (but not faulty) & that it was like Blackpool Illuminations!


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Peter saw a great German perspective on two versions of the XE

https://youtu.be/hHPIIHdiBfA

give a watch it's quite thorough. (apart from the date of the review in the title that is!)



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Peter J #281986 18/06/15 07:05 AM
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We went out yesterday to try the new Jaguar XE, in its 240bhp Ford Ecoboost engine guise.
Oh yes, almost all aluminium and made in England, like another car in the garage.


Hi Peter. You do Jaguar a disservice with that statement. The XE has the new Jaguar developed "Ingenium" engine, not a Ford Ecoboost, and quite an engine it is to. So the engine is made in England along with the rest of the car.

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Originally Posted By James Mc
Originally Posted By Peter J
We went out yesterday to try the new Jaguar XE, in its 240bhp Ford Ecoboost engine guise.
Oh yes, almost all aluminium and made in England, like another car in the garage.


Hi Peter. You do Jaguar a disservice with that statement. The XE has the new Jaguar developed "Ingenium" engine, not a Ford Ecoboost, and quite an engine it is to. So the engine is made in England along with the rest of the car.


Whilst the Ingenium Diesel is excellent the Jaguar dealer does not know when cars with the gasoline Ingenium motor will be available: JLR is not giving them even an estimated date.
For now they are selling gasoloine engine cars with the 2.0L Ecoboost motor or 3.0l 340 bhp V6 Supercharged.


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Peter J #289302 18/07/15 09:26 AM
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Hmmm. I've just been having a shufti at the specs for the XE. The base model diesel puts out an incredibly low 99g/km - sounds wonderfully tax efficient; yet with lightweight aluminium body, 165 horses & broad spread of torque should still be a reasonable performer. I gather the 4x4 option will be coming out next year, so I'll wait and see what the figures look like for that model. Emissions will obviously be higher, but anything under 140g/km works for me under the French TVTS (company car) system.


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Originally Posted By Peter J
I've been reading car tests in the media. Not a word said against it.

According to Car Magaazine it just beats the new C Class, beats the 3 series and A4 soundly, comparing Diesels.

Richard Hammond, in his various columns, loves the 3.0S version, 340 bhp but he would..

Test day organised for early July. If I still have a job.


Both car and bike magazines seem to have the same habit of praising most new cars to the sky, particularly british ones, only for you to read 12 months later that their new latest competitor is far better. Where do you go for dispassionate reviews?

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Originally Posted By milligoon
Peter saw a great German perspective on two versions of the XE

https://youtu.be/hHPIIHdiBfA

give a watch it's quite thorough. (apart from the date of the review in the title that is!)



Watching that was hard work! It was disappointing that the revue highlighted a poorer than sector interior - thats the one area where I would have hoped that Jaguar could better the pretty ordinary German efforts. And still on the negatives, the rear end looks like an almost straight BMW rip off. But the performance seemed to rate well .

The question in my mind would be the reliability. Quality wise Jaguar have claimed more resurrections than Lazarus, each time for it to be proved a bit over hyped. Buying with my own money, I would only consider a Jag if it offered something not available elsewhere as the F type does for example. The XE seems fairly similar to the 3 series so I would chose the German offering. If I still had a company car, it would be a different choice.

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