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Originally Posted By Jack The Lad
There are some interesting stories about the Gurkhas .


We used to use them as security on a ship transiting the Malacca straight. Amazing guys, so professional.


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I used to live in Fleet not far from the previous Gurka barracks. I have yet to meet a better group of people. Polite, gentle, funny when engaged, never rude or angry. If we could set them up with a role model status for the youth of today we would have a lot better society 20 years from now.

We used to have a couple of them as bouncers at our pub in Fleet when I was young (the oatsheaf on the cross roads) It was so funny to watch a 6 foot drunk grunting thug get taken out in 20 seconds by a short quiet polite off duty gurka on friday and saturday nights.

I do remember the first war book I read and it chilled me to the bone in many ways. The Kola Run - the UK-USSR Arctic convoys. http://www.uboat.net/books/reviews.html/title/547


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Been watching a digital recording BBC4 freeview Scotlands war at sea . The WW1 battle of the North sea Jellicoe 1st Earl sea lord . Was able to cross the T without them knowing nautical term for setting your ships across there bows , he had 26 battle ships nose to tail in a 6 mile arch . The German navy sailed into it and they opened up . The German Navy then called for there dreadnoughts and Jellicoe slipped out of there sight . The North sea was left to the British navy. Its on again ( part 2 ) Monday 9pm . Grandad was on one of the battleships , but he never spoke a word of it.

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I watched that and it was excellent. But what a waste of lives when the ships went down. On all sides.


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War is a last resort ( I HOPE ) wasted lives of young men gone , sad parents wives and more so children .
Yet when the fleet sailed into the Forth and under the bridge the workers threw coal at them . They wanted another Trafalgar, Nelson or Drake. I think the British dont like war but when it starts they are the last to leave a bit you started it . Looking forward to the next part, Grandad had a toe missing on his left foot by schrapnel . Gran made him get a job as a watchman when they built a s/market at the end of there road to keep him out of the pub. He had to get a medical , was well retired . Went to the doctors and they had no medical papers , never been in his life. Passed away 3 weeks later of the big C.

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I shall watch Part2.
Really enjoyed Part1...


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What I would not mind is a working holiday on the Grand Turk . It is often in Whitby moored up . I was onboard and read it can be hired out to a group of people for a holiday . Must come with some crew . I will put your name down Graham as Admiral Lord Morgan if my numbers come up you can put me down as galley slave or ships cat. Jay as lookout in the crows nest keeping his eyes open for the Virgin Islands.

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Originally Posted By DaveW
I've been catching up on my WW2 reading. This time about the Deutschland class cruisers. Amazingly a chap at work had not heard of the River Plate encounter. The film must have been shown on TV hundreds of times.

Anyway, something I didn't know - the power plant(s) were 9 cylinder double acting two stroke diesels. Four of them producing 56,000 shaft HP - via two Vulcan reduction gearboxes. (28.5 knots). The benefits over steam turbines were a much greater range, and the ability to attain maximum speed much quicker than with a turbine.
Amazing technology for the 1930's.
The whole story of the development of this class (of three) is fascinating. And how in the early stages of WW2, the crew were taken off enemy ships, before either requisitioning, or where the engines had been sabotaged (as per instructions), sinking an empty ship.
After the battle, where he inflicted huge damage on the three British cruisers, British intelligence misled the Captain into believing that he faced insurmountable odds, which is why he blew his ship up, then shot himself in the head the following day after making sure his crew were safe.




Interesting stuff Dave , I wonder what would have happened if the G. Spee had called our bluff and took on those cruisers ? The German equipment always seems shiny new, very efficient , faster and the latest gear ! Somewhat similar to today I feel ?


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Its not the shiny guns its the skill guile and superior ability of our captains and sailors that have won wars. uk

In the bay of Biscay WW2 a British battle ship was passing an American battleship . The captain of the American sent a message to the British captain " how is the second biggest navy in the world". The British captain returned the message " very well thank you , how is the second best".





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Originally Posted By DaveW
I've been catching up on my WW2 reading. This time about the Deutschland class cruisers. Amazingly a chap at work had not heard of the River Plate encounter. The film must have been shown on TV hundreds of times.

Anyway, something I didn't know - the power plant(s) were 9 cylinder double acting two stroke diesels. Four of them producing 56,000 shaft HP - via two Vulcan reduction gearboxes. (28.5 knots). The benefits over steam turbines were a much greater range, and the ability to attain maximum speed much quicker than with a turbine.
Amazing technology for the 1930's.
The whole story of the development of this class (of three) is fascinating. And how in the early stages of WW2, the crew were taken off enemy ships, before either requisitioning, or where the engines had been sabotaged (as per instructions), sinking an empty ship.
After the battle, where he inflicted huge damage on the three British cruisers, British intelligence misled the Captain into believing that he faced insurmountable odds, which is why he blew his ship up, then shot himself in the head the following day after making sure his crew were safe.




Interesting stuff Dave , I wonder what would have happened if the G. Spee had called our bluff and took on those cruisers ? The German equipment always seems shiny new, very efficient , faster and the latest gear ! Somewhat similar to today I feel ?

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