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Whilst it is true that the problems are very much of Morgan's making, not helped by denial, probably because of product liability litigation, one has to feel very sorry for them right now, having to rebuild 1000 or so cars could be disasterous financially for them, although, the Three Wheeler brand is a company on its' own, so if it goes into bankruptcy because of this, it shouldn't bring the whole company down, but even then, it could be hugely expensive and damaging to the main company.
On the brighter side, (if there is one) Callum has done a considerable mileage already, before this problem, and he will be getting a new chassis, and possibly one or two other little goodies fitted whilst the car is apart, right Callum? But I have seen cracked chassis on quite low mileage cars as well.
Dan makes a good observation, in that there should also be something to lock the two forward ends of the top chassis tube together, even a bolt in bar would help. I wonder if we will ultimately see this solution on a future chassis Dan? If morgan subcontracted the chassis design out to a third party then some of the financial liability could sit with the designer.
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I thought Matt Humphries designed the chassis?
I do agree that the constant rocking of the big S&S is the issue here. Its one hell of big lump and even at high revs will be creating an extreme rocking action throughout the front of the chassis if not even further back.
I am not an engineer - but do have some experience of restoring old bikes and looking out for metal fatigue issues.
However I do hope for everyones sake - including MMC that this issue is/will now be resolved.Its easy to jump to the wrong conclusion in that the problem is not solved or will get worse.
I am an optimist though!!
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If someone god forbid dies in a car that as a cracked frame ,Morgan will have a lot to answer to dont you think ,all of people keep defending Morgan but let face the Morgan 3 wheeler was wrong from the start ,Morgan had money on there mind ,not safety and customer service, such a sham dont you think
Don't forget that " During normal operating there have not been any recorded instances " ........ A bit like the bendy wishbones on early cars , only happened on the racetrack .My car spun when the wishbone bent entering a roundabout ....
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What normal then someone doing 30 mph and going out 2or 3 times a year ,something not right here ,it a paper wait for you to look at ,fill it up with soil and a nice planter it will make for 35000
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I think the point about the MMC Scott, is that without them, no-one would have the balls to do what they have done in the first place, but that doesn't mean they should absolve themselves of responsibility for putting it right, and they should not lie about what is happening, however, in their shoes, and in the place they are in right now, can anyone say they would not do the same thing, given current lliability laws.
To a certain extent they have been dropped in it by CM and it appears no-one was strong enough at the time to overrule him initially, and they are now clearing up as best they can.
If they were to go down the tubes because of this, it would be a pretty sad state of affairs, so I hope they can continue to balance what they do best, with trying to keep their customers on side.
They have a really good guy running things right now, and sometimes he must be tearing his hair out trying to get things right.
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MMC set up a separate company for production of the M3W so ..if I am right..MMC the parent cannot fail because of or if anything £££disasterous should happen to the M3W.
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I hope production don't stop ,so Morgan can fix all the chassis that are wrong,but that me being selfish as Ive not got my m3w yet and still cant wait for my phone call to come get it ,but you can see my point ,if someone has a little accident and there car as cracked frame it could fold up in a bad way and then all this come out in court,dont look good ,Morgan are doing the right thing ,but lets hope the little white lie dont come up ?
I no what I would do as I would not sleep at night knowing people have paid lots of money for a car that not quite right ?
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MMC set up a separate company for production of the M3W so ..if I am right..MMC the parent cannot fail because of or if anything £££disasterous should happen to the M3W. Is this true? Nowhere on any documentation have I read about a separate company being responsible for the M3W. Or have I missed something somewhere? Mark
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Yep, true, have a look on their website, it's called something like Morgan Three Wheeler Co Ltd and is a subsidiary of the Morgan Motor Co Ltd.
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Isn't the parent company called Morgan Technologies Ltd - with subsidiaries Morgan Motor Co Ltd, Morgan Three Wheeler Co Ltd, Aero Racing Ltd?
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