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I cannot help but think electric cars, as impressive as they are, are not the final solution but a mere stepping stone. Think of vinyl records as petrol, tape as deisel and the Telstra as a CD. What will be the MP3? Vinyl is the real experience, just as a big naturally aspirated V8 is what a car experience is really all about. I recently replaced my record deck with a Linn LP12D and have started to buy new vinyl discs. Vinyl endured, just as there will always be ICE engines. Yes, cassettes are certainly "diesel" and battery powered vehicles are an interim phase. I believe that hydrogen will be the end game, driving fuel cells to make electricity for the majority and nice internal combustion engines for us. All that comes out of the exhaust is steam... Talking of which, how about a hydrogen powered steam car.....? 
Peter,
66, 2016 Porsche Boxster S
No longer driving Tarka, the 2014 Plus 8...
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I think I will buy into Watering Cans, looks like it will be a big thing once we move to Hydrogen, ( although we have already seen developments of Water Fueled Engines dismissed). Strange when the Water Based paint was first introduced they tried convincing everyone they had to purchase special bottled water @ £5 a litre,  it wasn't to long until someone showed them Tap Water works just fine. P:S. love the Tesla, just haven't got the bottle to purchase just yet, if it were a company car choice I am certain I would go that way.
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Kin certainly not bored with your post. Very interesting!
Electric cars have not made it on to my wish list yet but--------.
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@aeroman, wish I could afford 2x £90k cars in the same household!! Even if I did, I am afraid the Plus 8 would most likely be a garage queen.
@Alistair- the ludicrous mode for existing P85D owners is half price at £5000+labour, only to those the cars have already gone into production, anyone else would have to pay full price £10k+90KW battery@£2.5k, total £12500!!
As for driving impressions? All I can say is do believe what all the motoring publications said about the car, its a game changer!!
It makes all other ICE cars feels like a steam engine regardless of what make!!
One just couldn't imagine what Tesla could do in 10 years time!!(providing they are still going?)
Ok, lets talk about the car, the interiors quality is no match for Merc, BMW or Audi, probably more VW, but the alcantara headlining and dashboard does makes up for the rather plain looking interior .
The frameless lightweight aluminium doors sounded very average when you shut the door, it didn't have that reassuring thud that you get with the german machine
As for driving itself, it's simply incredible, eerily quite under 30mph, at 70mph subdue road noise and very little windnoise, its a very relaxing car to drive, instant power and torque at your disposal!!
The ride is very smooth, and it corners flatly, probably due to most of the weight is at the floor pan, low centre of gravity
No waiting for the engine to spool up and hit the power band, no gear changes, the Tesla is probably the fastest real world car there is, the power to punch from 0mph is simply astonishing, dare I say no car would beat it off the line from the light.
Not that I am into the traffic light grand prix scene, but it is certainly very handy, especially when 2 lanes merged into a single lane, or try entering into a busy roundabout.
Hope I didn't bored anyone with my write up! No chance of being bored - thanks for taking the time to share your experience with us all - these cars are hot property in the UK right now and most of us mortals have fragmented knowledge of them. 
2009 4/4 Sport Henrietta
1999 Indigo Blue +8
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Vinyl is the real experience, just as a big naturally aspirated V8 is what a car experience is really all about.
Hmm. Those are subjective opinions, I'd prefer you didn't present them as statements of fact without providing evidence.
Tim H.
1986 4/4 VVTi Sport, 2002 LR Defender, 2022 Mini Cooper SE
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They were racing two of these at the Brighton Speed trials yesterday. I do not know the times but they were quick and silent. They also cost about £90.000 each. I asked about the sport car version but they do not make that car anymore. They informed me that they had made 700 Sports cars and would like to know of anyone who wishes to sell one. I do know of one Morgan owner who has one. David 
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Vinyl is the real experience, just as a big naturally aspirated V8 is what a car experience is really all about.
Hmm. Those are subjective opinions, I'd prefer you didn't present them as statements of fact without providing evidence. Blimey, I thought this was TM not Judge Rinder  
Keith
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Blimey, I thought this was TM not Judge Rinder Sorry, I may have been more than usually sensitive (or grumpy) but I read it as a clear implication that those of us who don't spend £6k + on a record player or £60k + on a car are somehow missing out - which is of course complete bollocks.
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Tim H.
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I think if everyone stuck to facts backed with empirical evidence, there wouldn't be any posts. They're called opinions. 
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I think if everyone stuck to facts backed with empirical evidence, there wouldn't be any posts. They're called opinions. Of course. But there's a heck of a difference between "I believe that V8s are the best engine for a sports car" and "V8s are the only proper choice for a sports car". There's an unspoken arrogance in the latter that personally I find distasteful. But I'll shut up on the subject now.
Tim H.
1986 4/4 VVTi Sport, 2002 LR Defender, 2022 Mini Cooper SE
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