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If it was my decision, I wouldn't hesitate to go for a well cared for 4/4 Sport (2008/2010) rather than something like a 1975 model.
Yes, it's almost twice the price of your 1975 example, but you'll get your money back if you sell it and in the meantime, you'll have a (imho) better car to drive, Less to rot & less to rust. Less to wear out so quickly (due to age). Better fuel economy for the same performance etc....
Less time under the hood = more time out enjoying the drive.
If you can stretch the budget to a newer 4/4 with the Mazda 6-speed box, then all the better! This is very good advice IMO. I bought my 4/4 Sport on this basis. I now have a Roadster - BUT the 4/4 is for sale at Newtown Morgan - its a good one!
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I totally understand the appeal of the older Morgan in terms of classic character and simplicity. If it were me I wouldn't hesitate. Depends what you intend to use it for and if it's mainly local pottering about you don't need 6 gears etc. However if the  is not happy then you need to be brave. I have a couple of classic cars in addition to the Morgan and my wife doesn't get it at all...just old cars!
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To my mind, it all depends on how happy you are with spanners in your hand. If you enjoy working on cars, tuning and developing them, then the older stuff is loads better - mainly because there are many fewer restrictions as to what you can do.
If, on the other hand you prefer not to get your hands grubby then a newer car is going to be much more sensible especially from a financial point of view.
Tim H. 1986 4/4 VVTi Sport, 2002 LR Defender, 2022 Mini Cooper SE
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It has been posted before but if you are thinking of buying a 70’s model and haven’t seen CM’s video is a must watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ZHaBLQMDsThe modern stainless bulkheads and galvanised chassis are brilliant. (let’s hope modern trends don’t change this again in the future!)
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Eighteen months ago I almost bought a 1975 4/4 from a well regarded dealer in the North West. My wife pulled the plug on it at the very last minute which p***ed the dealer off (understandably) and me also. The car was cheap (£13k or thereabouts) and a bit shabby but felt strong and authentic and I liked it.
The same car has appeared for sale again at the same dealer recently. It's had a respray (which it needed) and is now about £16k. I don't know whether to buy it. (The wife is more circumspect now although she is asking why it has come up for sale again so soon, which I guess is a fair question) My budget could accommodate something more expensive (up to about £30k) but there's something about these 1970s ones that I like.
Any thoughts?
P. I think I know the car you mean if its a French blue one. I did see it a few times before it got re-sprayed, it had been done not very well by the previous owner and looked a bit shabby although you could use it every day without worrying too much about it. I haven't seen it in the flesh since its been re-sprayed but obviously the dealer is trying to re-coup the money he has laid out for the re-spray. If it is the blue one then the Dealer is an ok guy. I believe it has had a new chassis and other work not too long ago. I really liked it to be honest before it was re-sprayed. I think the only thing which stopped it selling before was the poor quality re-spray which has now been resolved. If it were me I would go for it.
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To my mind, it all depends on how happy you are with spanners in your hand. If you enjoy working on cars, tuning and developing them, then the older stuff is loads better - mainly because there are many fewer restrictions as to what you can do.
If, on the other hand you prefer not to get your hands grubby then a newer car is going to be much more sensible especially from a financial point of view. I would also agree with Tim's comments above. The other thing is, there seems to be quite a few electrical gremlins with the newer Morgans, the older ones are much more easy to maintain in that respect especially if you go for simple electronic ignition system.
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Thank you. Most helpful. It's a bit of a toss up really. The '75 car is interesting and cheap but there's a 2009 4/4 with the folding screen and aeroscreens and 13k miles...12 grand more than the old car but, just within budget...
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Enlightening stuff, but slightly terrifying! Eyes wide open and all that...
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I think I know the car you mean if its a French blue one. I did see it a few times before it got re-sprayed, it had been done not very well by the previous owner and looked a bit shabby although you could use it every day without worrying too much about it. I haven't seen it in the flesh since its been re-sprayed but obviously the dealer is trying to re-coup the money he has laid out for the re-spray. If it is the blue one then the Dealer is an ok guy. I believe it has had a new chassis and other work not too long ago. I really liked it to be honest before it was re-sprayed. I think the only thing which stopped it selling before was the poor quality re-spray which has now been resolved. If it were me I would go for it. [/quote]
Yes, John. That is the car. The chassis looked fine and the wings are all glassfibre.
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As Hamwich and NorthernMorgan have said it depends on how much you want to play with scanners and how you want to use the car.
I really think you need to drive both and that will help you make up your mind. Touch ash, my 2011 4/4 Sport has proved utterly reliable in 3 years of ownership and meant I have been able to maximise time driving it, which is what I wanted.
Compared to other modern models it seems to be the most simple and uncomplicated model to look after.
Drive then both and you'll find out and which ever one you choose you will have lots of fun. One thing seems to be sorted is that it's not a case now of should you, but which one.
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