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Surely we should be applauding such incentives - rather than saying the spec is awful and asking where the money is going etc.

Morgan sell two more cars, RBL collect a load of money. What's not to like?

I don't know Oakmere, but well done them - they're actually doing something, not sniping from the sidelines.

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Originally Posted By Muck Adam
Peter,
It is interesting that the response to the reading of the Laurence Binyon's poem 'For The Fallen' is, in Australia, "Lest we forget"; elsewhere in the world it is "We will remember them". Do you have any idea why Australians use "Lest we forget"? I would be interested to find out.

It seems to be a phrase very much associated with the ANZAC remembrance, Legacy was formed by returned soldiers to care for the wives and children of those who did not return. In fact I believed it to be the Legacy motto. If I recall there was a bronze torch mounted on a plaque on the wall with the words "Lest we forget"



Now that you have jolted my memory I believe the response "We will remember them" is often used too.


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Originally Posted By Neilda
Surely we should be applauding such incentives - rather than saying the spec is awful and asking where the money is going etc.

Morgan sell two more cars, RBL collect a load of money. What's not to like?

I don't know Oakmere, but well done them - they're actually doing something, not sniping from the sidelines.

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Perhaps it would be a good idea to go back to the start. The OP said: 'What do we think chaps and chappesses ?'. A straightforward question I think.

TM Members obliged and, as might be expected, opinions differed - on the various elements of the car. Members were asked for their opinion, they gave their opinions, honestly and for better or worse. I do not see that as 'sniping from the sidelines'.

I don't think anyone has said that producing the cars and using them to raise funds for charitable purposes was a bad idea, in fact quite the opposite, everyone seems to support the idea and the cause. Asking for clarification on the donations is, to my mind, entirely reasonable given the purpose of the project (especially as it hadn't been stated in the original and earlier posts).

Just because someone is not keen on the car (or at least some aspect of it) doesn't mean they do not give due credit to Oakmere for coming up with the idea in the first place and then turning that idea into reality. As an example: I do not like the colour scheme but I do applaud the motives behind the project and wish them well in their endeavour.

But enough of all this....I have just received the Morgan Accessories brochure (along with December's Miscellany and the very nice 2016 Calendar)....the Morgan Accessories brochure shows me the life that I really should be living....with not a grey hair in sight (in stark contrast to what I saw at MOG15)....perhaps there are two parallel Morgan universes? Either way, I have just put the Morgan Tax Disc Holder (page 14) at the very top of this year's Christmas List. A practical choice I thought, and good to know that tradition lives on....


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Muck Adam.A new car and an accessories brochure with Xmas on the doorstep what could be better.....


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Peter,

Thank you for the response.

I find it interesting because the RBL in UK must have adopted the phrase at some point in their history as it is mostly associated with them and their Poppy Appeal. To find that it is also used by Legacy in Australia suggests some degree of collaboration - though perhaps given the nature of the Commonwealth that should not be surprising.

Either way, it is the sentiment that counts, whether written or spoken.

There is a slight irony in that Kipling wrote the words as the refrain in his poem Recessional at the turn of the 20th Century when he was full of 'empire' etc, but a few short years on his mood and thinking was completely reversed following the loss of his son in WWI. So I often wonder what he thought about it being used, out of original context, in connection with RBL and Remembrance etc.

Anyway thanks for answering my question and for the information.


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I have to say that I too applaud Oakmere

And really I feel that the donation amount to The Royal Legion was none of our business and feel a little embarrassed as the instigator of this thread, that some posts have turned into an interrogation of worthiness of their motives

The size of the donation was really the interest and discretion of Oakmere, The Legion and the interest of the purchaser of the car

My asking for opinion on the cars was more about the aesthetics, details and specification not on the charitable nature of the project

As an MD of an SME, I sanction charitable donations on behalf of my shareholders and will never discuss the amounts outside of the business as it is between the company stakeholders and the organisation and any amount would be meaningless anyway as it wouldn't take into consideration time and support, services rendered and gift donations in the way of auction prizes etc

I believe every profit making organisation has a social responsibly and whether it's time or money to help those organisations that struggle for government funding but help people who we come into contact with through life, it's a matter of descretion

But it's a jolly good job that companies do this sort of thing and I feel Oakmere didn't have to disclose to us here on the forum the exact amount



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Indeed! Not only do we share a country (big assumption based on very little evidence) but also dark hair and grey beards.....there may well be two parallel universes....except the only Aero I am likely to get will be the chocolate type (hopefully an Orange one!).


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In a parallel universe there should be no discrimination between chocolate pepermint or orange,makes a change from wipers misty gauges and shiny things,,,,,,


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Originally Posted By Muck Adam
Morgan Accessories brochure shows me the life that I really should be living....with not a grey hair in sight

Hardly typical Morgan owners as models.


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