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You would not require ROPS Adrian - depending on which classes you will be entering. Advisable, but not a requirement. However, personal safety equipment is another matter.
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I always thought the American stock car race system was a good idea, where the winner had to be prepared to sell their car for $1000 or whatever, precisely intended to prevent 'cheque book' development as Simon so neatly puts it. That was tried years ago Tim and spectacularly failed when the 'LOMBARDS' had enough disposable cash to throw cars away, they would build a race car that was clearly outside of the price limit and when challenged sold it on and replaced it with the next incarnation waiting in the wings. From memory the last club to run a series based on the rule were the 750MC. Some people are sadly so interested in 'Pot Hunting' that they will throw amazing amounts of resources at a 5 bob trophy and their moment in the spotlight.....I have seen it in everything from circuit racing to stage rallies.
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I always thought the American stock car race system was a good idea, where the winner had to be prepared to sell their car for $1000 or whatever, precisely intended to prevent 'cheque book' development as Simon so neatly puts it. That was tried years ago Tim and spectacularly failed when the 'LOMBARDS' had enough disposable cash to throw cars away, they would build a race car that was clearly outside of the price limit and when challenged sold it on and replaced it with the next incarnation waiting in the wings. From memory the last club to run a series based on the rule were the 750MC. Some people are sadly so interested in 'Pot Hunting' that they will throw amazing amounts of resources at a 5 bob trophy and their moment in the spotlight.....I have seen it in everything from circuit racing to stage rallies. Colin, I'd hesitate to point that stick at the Williams 4/4, it's actually a fairly well engineered car, and the money to date has, IMHO been spent relatively well. (I only say "fairly well engineered" because there is always room for improvement, and that's why we do what we do) My concerns are for the championship as a whole, if someone comes along with profligate spending then how does that encourage more new competitors (or keep existing ones), which is the whole reason for the existence of the 4/4 Sport Competition model. My brief back in 2008/9 was to design a car that was fun to drive, reasonably quick and competitive in class and above all, at an "entry level" price point Laurie, please don't can the thread, we may not agree on a few things, but I, and many others are genuinely interested in what you are doing. Simon @ Sifab
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I always thought the American stock car race system was a good idea, where the winner had to be prepared to sell their car for $1000 or whatever, precisely intended to prevent 'cheque book' development as Simon so neatly puts it. That was tried years ago Tim and spectacularly failed when the 'LOMBARDS' had enough disposable cash to throw cars away, they would build a race car that was clearly outside of the price limit and when challenged sold it on and replaced it with the next incarnation waiting in the wings. From memory the last club to run a series based on the rule were the 750MC. Some people are sadly so interested in 'Pot Hunting' that they will throw amazing amounts of resources at a 5 bob trophy and their moment in the spotlight.....I have seen it in everything from circuit racing to stage rallies. Colin, I'd hesitate to point that stick at the Williams 4/4, it's actually a fairly well engineered car, and the money to date has, IMHO been spent relatively well. (I only say "fairly well engineered" because there is always room for improvement, and that's why we do what we do) My concerns are for the championship as a whole, if someone comes along with profligate spending then how does that encourage more new competitors (or keep existing ones), which is the whole reason for the existence of the 4/4 Sport Competition model. My brief back in 2008/9 was to design a car that was fun to drive, reasonably quick and competitive in class and above all, at an "entry level" price point Laurie, please don't can the thread, we may not agree on a few things, but I, and many others are genuinely interested in what you are doing. Simon @ Sifab Simon, I was not referring to any car, company or builder, where did you read that or get that wild assumption? I was in fact thinking back to the 1970's where club races at Mallory were ruined by this sort of thing and those drivers involved are probably no longer with us. Should also have added in the world of rallying someone turning up at a small club single stage event with their own tyre truck, tyre warmers etc......
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Should also have added in the world of rallying someone turning up at a small club single stage event with their own tyre truck, tyre warmers etc......
We had that hill-climbing motorcycles in the '90s. Tyre warmers were banned, but that didn't stop one guy hiding his bike in his van until right before his run. Didn't seem to do him much good, though...
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Should also have added in the world of rallying someone turning up at a small club single stage event with their own tyre truck, tyre warmers etc......
We had that hill-climbing motorcycles in the '90s. Tyre warmers were banned, but that didn't stop one guy hiding his bike in his van until right before his run. Didn't seem to do him much good, though... We got so fed up with one character I was servicing for a mate when on the line with a minute to go his Navi opened the window and called for 'Tyre Warmers'....a few of us rushed forward and started 'breathing' on the tyres.....it got a few laughs ;-)
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OK OK lets keep it going but please try and keep on topic.
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OK OK lets keep it going but please try and keep on topic.
What; and take away one of the delights of this Forum!!! 
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