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Its directly lifted from my copy of the owners manual , which pre dates the comfort kit , so not sure.
My gut feel is it will be the same , but a call to Morgan would be in order if you are not sure.

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Originally Posted By nippymog
Its directly lifted from my copy of the owners manual , which pre dates the comfort kit , so not sure.
My gut feel is it will be the same , but a call to Morgan would be in order if you are not sure.

Thanks, that's why I asked as OP has later model. I believe the toe out on early pre comfort kit models was to allow for something closer to zero toe in when suspension compressed, in turn due to seemingly poorly thought out steering geometry. Post below alludes to this.

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Hi Richard, the figures you quote are for the Empire kit.

My 2013 car came with lots of toe out unladen which was supposed to self correct when laden. We all know what supposed did.

If you have the comfort kit or the later uprights zero degrees toe is the way to go.

Camber is not adjustable.


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Wonder if you could machine off 3/16ths or so off the ends of the upper "A"frames so Heim Joints have more in-out room--think that would work? Maybe my thinking is off here.

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Yes that would work providing there is enough meat left on to screw the joints into.

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Originally Posted By Dab of oppo
Yes they are but only minimally. The best solution would be to have rose joints on the bottom wishbone as well as it is too easy to run out of adjustments with just the top one as I have on one side.

I can only get 1.25 degrees camber on the off side where 1.5 is easily achievable on the near side. This I would think is just down to manufacturing tolerances.

So I set both sides to 1.25 with zero toe, with 75 kgs of ballast.

This gives a good steering feel and it generally goes where you point it within reason.

Its no Elise or Caterham but its not meant to be.


Surprised that a modification kit needs itself to be modified. Couldn't you just ask Paul Jacobs at Empire to supply you another kit that does allow full adjustment?


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I've been following this thread with interest. When Empire made the top wishbones, they made up a jig which enables all following wishbones to be made exactly the same, and I don't think they realised at the time that the adjustment would be quite limited, but as hbatts said, it is only a matter of taking a small amount of metal off the threaded end to allow the spherical joint to screw further in. As I recall, there is sufficient thread to allow this, always best to double measure before removing metal of course.


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Always good to hear from you Paul----is there a "new" M3W on the way?

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"is there a "new" M3W on the way?"


No, but there could be a new 4 wheeler coming soon. smile


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Originally Posted By PaulJ
"is there a "new" M3W on the way?"


No, but there could be a new 4 wheeler coming soon. smile


Oooooh..!!!

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