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Visceral is what a Morgan is - not many new cars can equal that specialness even given all their apparent failings.

"The fact that they are made by Roberts rather than Robots also means that they can never be built perfectly like a Honda or a Toyota"

Or Nissan

Having said that, just reading Autoexpress top 150 cars survey, and the all conquering highly automated Qashqai comes 150 out of 150 for reliabilty.

Probably need a production line upgrade from the T-800 to the T-1000 series.

Morgans (possibly fortuitously) are not featured.

Qashqai's are everywhere.

They may not break down but would you want to put your money into one?

Although there are many "problems" with Morgans, isn't it strange that 99% of chaps on this forum own one or more.
If they were so awful the company would have failed years ago and the continual comparison with "modern" cars is IMHO not really valid.
We buy them for what they have not what they haven't and with the never ending increase in speed traps, I for one enjoy having immense fun at 50mph therby negating any failings in the suspension or aerodynamics etc.
The one thing I think they may get wrong is the never ending run of "specials", perhaps they would be better off getting the basic product to a higher standard.

+1. Too many specials and too much of a racing mentality.

But the cars still sell well enough to fill all the build slots.

But then again, some of those dealer cars have been hanging around for a very long time - speaking as a long standing surfer of the MMC car finder function.

On the subject of encouraging the younger generation, there is another problem.
I'm 52 and have had Morgan's since I was 19. In my youth I used my Morgan as a daily driver in all weathers, yes it was not the best car, but I had the best time!
To my point, I used to ensure my first Morgan for less than £200, for a car worth about £15k. I now have a few Morgan's one of which, a 4/4 I've given to my 18 year old son. Until he's 21, he can't get any sensible insurance, and at 21 it'll cost him a £1k plus sum. He loves old cars and drives a 1968 MGBGT that he can insure at 18 for £800. My worry is that by the time he can get insurance he'll have lost the interest he has now......

Bloody hell, that's a coincidence!

It's all relative, when I was 23, 34 years ago my Triumph Tr7 was insured fully comp and cost me £180 a year, I think if you do the maths for inflation you will find that's at least equivalent to £1800 a year now. I just got on with it and paid up, my parents refused to help, they had no interest in cars.

If that had been a TR6 I would have been well impressed.....

I think Caterham have shown how to make just such a car - the Caterham 7 160.

http://uk.caterhamcars.com/cars/seven-160

I think this is a really charming, basic little sports car, the price is great & I guess even the insurance shouldn't be too bad for a youngish driver as it has such a weedy little motor. I'd be interested to know how well it is selling mind you, to see if the market for this sort of thing really exists, or if people just think it "a nice idea, but I'll have a more up-specced one, thanks".

Depending on what Morgan can get away with on existing type approval (from the recent 4/4 windscreen saga that's not immediately clear) my vision of an a cheap & simple model , the 3/4 or 4/3 would have

Ford Eco boost 1.0 litre 3 cylinder engine

Body tub & rear wings moulded as a piece in composite, with no door openings (step over and in, as in the M3W). Would save a huge amont of man hours.

Front cycle wings instead of the expensive and beautiful superformed ones.

Pressed steel wheels.

No windscreen, just brooklands screens (that obviously can't happen)

No hood, just a tonneau cover.