It's not all about employment or an improvement in the economy, it is more about not being told what to do and how to do it, by people over whom we have no right to veto. We are still a proud nation, like Australia, and I'm not sure they would like it either, if someone tried to push them around, so why should we? It wasn't what we signed up for in 1975 and we wouldn't now.
I believe that this is largely an emotive issue that has no real basis in fact.
Tim H. covered it in his list of points.
Originally Posted By Hamwich
3. We don't get 'pushed around' by Brussels: since 1999 the UK has been outvoted 56 times - but we've been on the winning side 2,466 times
What he did not mention was how many laws and regulations were proposed by the UK. I can't find any figures but it is clearly a number somewhere between zero and 2,466. I don't believe zero and I am sure it would be in the hundreds. Should other EU members turn round and say that they don't want the UK dictating any laws and regulations for the rest of the EU?
A clearly biased article that is intended to use some facts to distort the truth.
Firstly we have a very strange situation in the Italian government at the moment. However it is stretching the truth to say that it was forced on Italy by the EU.
Most of the article refers all the internal problems that have affected the Italian economy and then in a broad statement seeks to blame the entire situation on the single currency.
Ever since nearly every country in the world allowed itself to be influenced by new wave economists and float their currencies we have been in the hands of the banks and the currency speculators. Should we go back to fixed exchange rates? My response is that if we are not going to have a single currency the only option is to fix the exchange rate.
The real problem with the change to the Euro was that too many greedy people took the opportunity to make their own exchange rate from the lira to the euro. For example it was common for something that cost 1,000 lire to be sold at €1.00 not the €0.52 it should have been. Naturally this did not happen to wages, government services, traffic fines , and such things as automotive parts, but it did happen across a broad range of goods and services. The effect was instant inflation which has taken years to arrive at a balanced equilibrium.
In the mean time those that could have increased their incomes (large company and government upper echelon employees, company directors, politicians, etc.) whilst at the same time throwing ordinary people into unemployment and poverty. Taxes have steadily increased and we are on that downward spiral that I mentioned before. The only thing that has saved Italy from a complete disaster is the high level of personal savings, and that won't last for ever, plus the thriving black economy that does not appear in the statistics.
By the way re-introducing the lira and devaluing the currency really won't help much. The tourist industry will pick up because a holiday in Italy will be cheaper, and so will the rural sector. Most of our raw materials are imported so manufacturing costs will increase and so will the cost of imported goods. Foreign companies would then rush in to buy what is left of Italian industry and move production to low cost countries.Unless the currency was valued at a ridiculously low rate Italy would still be too costly for the multinationals. I suspect we would actually finish up worse off.
PS. By the way the AUD has historically been worth about 1,000 lire with occasional fluctuations of minus 20% to plus 50%. Based on the current AUD EUR exchange rate and converting EUR to ITL at the official rate the AUD is still worth about 1,000 lire. That's interesting, isn't it?
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Sweden joined EU to be able to influence the development of a future 'business partner' (we still have our 'krona' currency). My view is that EU is flawed and needs to change and I am deeply convinced that the future challenges must be dealt with together in Europe. Migration, the worlds ever growing population and the new middle class mentioned above (etc etc) will affect everyone where-ever you live. A flawed EU will perhaps not be the best partner to deal with from the 'outside'. My humble opinion is that Britain should lead (not leave) the work with the necessary changes facing the EU. I apologize to anyone who might feel offended by my participation in this discussion.
Absolutely spot on. I will be voting leave for the very same reasons. Cameron's (failed) "re-negotiation" proves the impossibility of change to a more sensible union.
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Sweden joined EU to be able to influence the development of a future 'business partner' (we still have our 'krona' currency). My view is that EU is flawed and needs to change and I am deeply convinced that the future challenges must be dealt with together in Europe. Migration, the worlds ever growing population and the new middle class mentioned above (etc etc) will affect everyone where-ever you live. A flawed EU will perhaps not be the best partner to deal with from the 'outside'. My humble opinion is that Britain should lead (not leave) the work with the necessary changes facing the EU. I apologize to anyone who might feel offended by my participation in this discussion.
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You know it makes sense! 
, and such things as automotive parts, but it did happen across a broad range of goods and services. The effect was instant inflation which has taken years to arrive at a balanced equilibrium. 
