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Hello guys, I have a friend who offered me a V8 from a M5 E39 with only 2000 km (1242 miles) on the clock. It comes from a M5 wich burned down, the engine was saved. Does this engine fit the Morgan S1?  If so, I think I snap it up, since mine is clocking up its miles very fast.. Could also be the easiest/cheapest way of upgrading the performance, no? Any thoughts? Cheers 
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I know a guy in Geel who has plenty of experience with this engine he could/can tell you what can be done http://www.performance-shop-geel.be/
Steven
sold: M3W, Aeromax,V6, 4/4 4seater
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The key issue is to know if the EMS is supplied and if someone can manage the loom
As well, I am not 100% sure that the drivetrain would cope with the additional power and that should be checked in details
Such a swap can be a nightmare in electronics and ancillaries in my experience with issues arising from all angles, such as unsufficient fuel pump and fuel system, additional cooling capacity, different air con, alternator etc...
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The GTN had the Alpina 4.6 V8 from the BMW X5 4.6is and various Alpina products; therefore, this does fit and can be wired into the S1. However, the E39 M5 uses the BMW S62 engine, which is a derivative of the M62; more information on the S62 can be found here . My concern would be the size of the engine and as the others have said, the complexity of setting up the electronics.
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Of course the GT3 cars (present and original ones) run that M5 engine but in agreement with what others have said I would think their budget is slightly larger than what you have in mind? 
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I've looked into this quite a lot.... it's not straight forward but can be done. There are several threads already on this topic.
If you do go ahead be ready for some serious spending and getting friendly with a local engineering/machineing shop to get some of the parts made.. mounts and the like.
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Hmmm...thanks for the input, guys. (as always) Looks like there is more to it than just losening some bolts. The seller also restores formula 1 cars, I'll have a chat with him. See what can be done. Love the idea though.
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anything new on this subject????
Steven
sold: M3W, Aeromax,V6, 4/4 4seater
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Nothing new from me....
I'm currently concentrating on the new engine for my race car.
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I have recently inquired about a different engine in the ss model because of my desire for a manual transmission instead of the offered mostly auto transmission. My request came about with a discussion one of the american dealers had with Charles Morgan at the centenial. My desire the present BMW M3 V8 with their manual transmission setup as I reason the size/weight differentials to whats in my S4 today cannot be that much different. I have not got a response to my formal request yet.
Love the ss lines, not a fan of the transmission setup.We will see what the response is.
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