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Very neat Keith.

Any news yet on your car?

Hi JVS ....... Yes, I know that Earl Sutton sold an Ultra Oil Cooler to Adrian Bowden because I am that man!
My 2014 M3W runs fine when it is moving but, the area I live in in the UK is frequent by many holidaymakers in the summer and the roads are packed. Not like the miles of roads in the USA? Once stuck in traffic queues (lines?) I could feel the S&S getting hot and tinkling. Many times I was forced to pull over because, despite the fan on the rear of the cylinders things were getting hot. I have only done 3000 miles but in that time have found the oil to be black and burnt (20w 50 Synthetic) with regular oil changes.
The Ultra Cool I chose was for the RF-1/2 FLH Reefer Cooler. Quite honestly it is academic which one you choose because they appear to be the same only the length of the pipes vary and you have to fit longer pipes anyway (£150.00p from Speedflow UK). Whilst choosing Earl responded to my emails by return but as soon as I had placed my order for the cooler kit (from North West Harley UK) his replies dried up. But I suppose he is a very busy man-beware the enthusiastic amateur! I was concerned about the compatibility between HD and S&S.
Anyway, the Ultra Oil Cooler is a fine, well engineered bit of kit designed for HD Motorcycles with plenty of access and space.It is a very tight fit indeed on the M3W so do not undertake it lightly and allow at least 3 days!!!(& nights!). Morgan have left the two engine mounting bolts on the LH side over the oil filter too long and these have to be removed and cut about 2.5cms off them. There is also quite a lot of wiring routing alongside the oil filter area which is a nuisance. The fitting is a classic sandwich adaptor between the filter and the housing which has to be torqued up to 20ft lbs and it is no joke getting a torque wrench in there. another plate with the pipe fittings (AN6) and electrical spades for the thermal switch has to be bolted to this plate with 6x allan bolts. Once again they are supposed to be torqued up to 6ft lbs. These are totally inaccessible for a torque wrench and so I tightened them up in order to a guessed torque and flat (I hope). Once the new pipes 80 & 68cm are fitted they can be routed across the underside of the torque compensator housing because there is natural recess and they are no lower than the existing pipes from the oil tank to the engine. The next job is to fit the cooler. It is not so important to get it in the ram air slipstream because it has 2x electric fans which are cut in by the thermal switch in the sandwich plate at about 190 degrees. The oil always flows through the cooler the fans then operate if the oil gets above about 190 degrees.
Space was once again a problem. In the end I opted to form a aluminium platform behind the number plate in front of the cam chain housing. The number plate then mounts back giving about 2cm clearance from the front of the cooler. It all looks very discreet and not an add on. I chose the chrome rather than the Black cooler and it looks the part. The cooler and mounting plate can easily be removed with the pipes attached should you need access to the timing belt etc. I have a badge bar and so that is going to require further thought.
Because of the access problems normal tools do not fit. I had to "modify" a 17mm jaw spanner (wrench) to tighten the AN-6 pipe fittings and shorten an allan key to tighten the sandwich plate. The tools in the kit are no good at all.
Then it was just a matter of ty-wrapping the pipes and making it all look neat. Running the wiring back into the cockpit and setting up the neon indicator was fairly straight forward. I did fit a switch in the live feed to the fan so that I can switch them off at the end of a run or when parked to prevent draining the battery.
So far the results have been quite remarkable and so far no leaks!! Much quieter and it appears to pull better?
Watch all of Earl's videos on line but don't be conned into thinking it will take "a couple of hours to fit". That only applies to an HD not a M3W.
I have yet to work out how to attach photos but if you would like to email me on adrianbowden@btinternet.com with any questions I will email what photos I have.
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glad to hear you were able to install the oil cooler and it's works to help keep the motor cooler and to last longer!

Hi Mog42 ,

I have been considering a similar set up for a while. I dont know much about Windows tablets suitable for this use - which one did you use / which version of Windows / is it waterproof ? I presume its running the S&S Protune package which only runs on older versions of windows i.e. not 10 ?

Thanks

its a 5" bush (cheap!) windows 10 tablet. The only down side is it only has a single micro USB port. I bought a USB OTG (On The Go) hub with a micro USB angled connector on one end and three standard usb leads. The idea of an OTG hub rather than a normal hub is that it can charge the device that is the master ( the PC ).

Data normally flows from the master to the slave (pc to printer) the OTG hub allows the PC to be the master talking to the ECU while also charging. You can add gauges (analogue or digital) to the screen, resize and layout - you you can have 2,3,4,10 if you want!. Save the layout and then set the table to sleep when the power button is pressed. When you wake it up the screen gauge comes up - simple!

It tucks nicely in front of the gear charger - function over form!

As I said the eco doesn't report an engine temperature of more than 270F which is within the spec for a G4 oil - and this only happens about 15 MPH, above the fan cutoff speed but too slow to cool. Thrashed or stationary and its around 220F - which is actually a tad cool.

If you need any more info let me know

Best wishes

Thanks for that .
What software is running on the tablet , talking to the ECU?
Thanks

Pro tune just press the gauge button once it's connected to the ecu

Thanks , I have used protune myself , but reason for asking was I didnt think it was supported on Windows 10, but clearly it is which is good news.

Hi Adrian,

You might want to extend the back AN oil line farther out so you can get to it. the back one goes longer and the front connect stays the same.

I'm going to try this when I get to our install.

Russell makes adapters to do this.

AN Female to Male NPT #614226
Flare Union #660350

http://russellperformance.com/mc/adapter-fittings/straight.shtml


http://russellperformance.com/mc/adapter-fittings/misc.shtml