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#383180 08/08/16 09:16 AM
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My plus 4 has now done 5000 miles. It had the 1000 mile dealer check and then a 1 year service at the dealer. It is now 2 years old. I have greased the front suspension every 600 miles, checked the spark plugs, chain lube spray on rear springs and obviously regularly checked fluid levels etc.
I only run it on shell nitro plus and the oil is still clear golden colour. So the question is: When does it need an oil change and filter change?
Is semi synthetic the correct lube?

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Hi Dave,
I have a 3 year old plus 4 with a Duratec engine like yours (you'd better check that, it could be a GDI). I have just purchased all the bits and oils required for a full service. I have only had the car 6 months and this will be the fourth time it has been serviced. It has 7400 miles on it, I am servicing it because I like to know that everything has been done, as a baseline.
I would suggest you service it every year unless you do more than 10000 miles a year, that's oil and filter. The gearbox and axle have a longer service interval but I do those at the same time, its only the cost of the oil.
Here is a list of what I purchased hope it helps.

Engine:
Castrol Magnatec C3 5w/40 fully synthetic
5.8 litres inc filter.

Oil Filter:
Fomoco
1751529
AA6E 6714 AA
P926D

Air Filter:
Fomoco
1216907
1S719601AB

Gearbox:
1.7 litres
Total 75w/90 9FE fully synthetic

Axle:
Castrol Syntrax L.S.D SAE 75W140 Synthetic Gear Oil
1.5 litres
The axle on my car is a LSD.

Prop shaft has 2 grease nipples, rear is easily accessible front difficult.
Front suspension has two grease nipples each side top and bottom.

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At that sort of mileage, no need to do it any more often, but I would recommend a yearly socket set tour* and inspection. It's quite surprising what can work loose on a Morgan.

* Socket set tour, a tweak where needed and a look for loose nuts and bolts


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Tefistar -- I also have a duratec Plus4 with a L.S.D rear axle. I experienced some nasty sounds from the dif having put in the Castrol LSD syntrax oil until I put in 75ml of redline friction modifiers. I was told by Castrol that the U.K. Syntrax doesn't contain friction modifiers, only that sold I Aus does as it was made for the Dana Spicer axles for Holdens!!!!! Guess what Morgan use - yes, Dana Spiser axles.
Anyway once I put in the friction modifiers, all was well again!!

This may not apply to your oil, but just in case!!!!!

Cheers!


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Dave, my GDI has done a similar mileage to yours. I change oil and filter every year, technically it doesn't need it on mileage but I like to know its done. In the first year I have changed g/box and diff (LSD) oils, checked plugs and cleaned the air filter. Levels are checked and suspension and prop (not too often)greased regularly.

I also do a visual, spanner and fittings check almost on an ongoing basis, even things like side screen bracket screws come loose.

I have also adjusted front hubs after initial running in they had some slack. Brake fluid I think i'll do year 2 too.


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Hi Robbie,
Oh, thanks for that. I got my information from GOMoG here
http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/axlefilling.html#Greasing
Filling a BTR axled Morgan, Fluids for LSD BTR's.
It says that it already contains a friction modifier (Sturaco), so I'll see what happens when I change it.
Thanks,
Peter


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oh and I used Mobil 1 for eng and Millers fully synth from Opie for box and diff. Ignore the handbook that says you need 1 ltr in the diff, its 1.6


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Just went to look at the handbook again for reassurance and it says that the 4/4 should have 80w/140 fully synthetic oil, the Plus 4 80w/140 semi synthetic oil, roadster 80w/140 semi synthetic and the plus 8 80w/140 synthetic oils of the highest quality.
Anyone know why the 4/4 is different, I am sure I read somewhere that all the axles across the classic range were the same except for the ratios. I think its a misprint.
The Castrol Syntrax that I have got is the most expensive oil I have ever bought £15 a litre. Confusing or what?

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I guess you have a Mazda MX5 gearbox, perhaps you should consider Mazda recommendations for gearbox oil.


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