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I believe Charles has measured the resistance per unit length of both variants to confirm the assumption. I'm sure he will clarify.


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Is a multiplyer resistor employed inthe measuring circuit. If so, changing it would enable a change in range for any given change in resistance

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However I am sure that the 280 mm unit will have a different overall resistance then the shorter unit. This in itself will alter the overall potential division

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OK....will demonstrate my ignorance. On the fuel gauge, I see the percentage, which clearly, has its own quality of creativity over accuracy.

But next to it is "0/0". What is that? I've searched and haven't found an answer.

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Originally Posted By JamesB
OK....will demonstrate my ignorance. On the fuel gauge, I see the percentage, which clearly, has its own quality of creativity over accuracy.

But next to it is "0/0". What is that? I've searched and haven't found an answer.


Could that be the percentage symbol?


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I don't think so, the number on the right is the fuel percentage. This "o/o" hasn't changed no matter how much fuel the percentage reads. Is it a fault display?



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No it's a % symbol!

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Yep, that's showing %100 full.

It probably won't drop until about 30 - 40 miles then will jump up and down until it gets to %0 at around 120 -140 ish miles.

At that point you've still got about 1/3 tank left.


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Duh. Thanks. I'm OK with the fantasy/creativity of the displayed value. Just didn't recognize their attempt to show the scale...especially since you can't change it to something else. User error.

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Originally Posted By FlatCapRacing
I believe Charles has measured the resistance per unit length of both variants to confirm the assumption. I'm sure he will clarify.


Yes, both senders use the same wire gauge!

The resistance increases by 0.265 ohms per mm of float drop.

With a double loop configuration this means the resistivity of hte wire is
0.133 ohms per mm

This is
copper awg 26
or more likely
aluminium awg 24


I agree that the length of the sender is not optimal for the size of the tank. smile
However it is a red herring as far as improving the accuracy of the gauge.

As a brief recap:
As the float moves down the sender, the resistance of the sender increases and consequentialy the fuel gauge reading falls.

At some position (around half full) the resistance is sufficient to show empty reglardless of whether there is any more wire track left in the sender.

This position of showing empty must be the same for both senders as they both use the same wire gauge.

Fitting the longer sender is like replacing your 25 hour digital clock with a 26 hour digital clock and expecting it to be better at telling the time.

In order for the extra length of the longer sender to be usable, one must first solve the underlying calibration problems.

I did this, but then found other problems with the electronics of the car which were contributing to the fuel gauge's erratic behaviour.

It has taken a long time testing, programming and re-testing(with many further red herrings), but i am looking forward to finally having a working solution fitted to my car ready for grindelwald.

The optimal solution will be a 280mm sender with the other associated problems ironed out. However a 280mm sender by itself has absolutely no effect at all.

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