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Trying to clean my hands after greasing with Red 'n Tacky yesterday, I understand the tacky bit! Does the factory use or recommend Red n Tacky?
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Thanks John – Just sent them an enquiry. Let me know how you get on. I have Devol also, so far so good with them though.
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Let me know how you get on. I have Devol also, so far so good with them though. No problem. I’m starting to plan my inevitable king pin change. I like the polymer bushes from a wear perspective. I also believe they isolate some of the front end mechanical shock (strictly IMO). Vesconite bushes with spiral grooves and hard chromed pins would be a wicked combination to try. Sorry about the slight thread drift
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Thanks John – Just sent them an enquiry. Let me know how you get on. I have Devol also, so far so good with them though. I have Devol's on one of My Morgans. They work ok! I would not change them for Vesconite. However the stainless pins are (IMO) garbage. Change to Hard Chrome Pins. From my experience with Devols is that the KP's wear the bushes do not. Somehow I feel the Devol bushes pick up and hold road grit. Acting like a file on the KP. Also, a consideration, is that the axle tube has been reamed a bit to accommodate the Devol bush system. Peter Mulberry makes bronze bushes oversize to replace the Devol bush. I buy Vesconite rod and make My own bushes. I have a lathe. Vesconite Hy Lube is self lubricating. However I grease the system at installation and once a year at Spring Maintenance time. I also install grease seals top and bottom of the axle tube. Not to keep grease in but to keep grit out. These seals are SKF 9815. The Vesconite factory will make bushes to Morgans specification. I got a quote at one time and the price was OK but the cost of getting them from South Africa to Seattle was not. The only advantage, I see, of Vesconite is the greasing issue. They may last longer than bronze, but not sure of this. I recently replaced bronze bushes on a 2000+8 with 50,000 miles. I think these bronze bushes had at least 20,000 miles left if the KP's were changed from mild steel to Hard Chrome. Remember, as I live in Seattle, there are not enough Morgans to support a Dealership. I must do My own maintenance. So I suit myself on what materials I use for the wear items. I liked the Australian Mining Engineer's idea and am using Vesconite. But if I lived in the UK. Colin Jones would get the job as the benefit of Vesconite is too marginal to not use Colin's service. Button Seattle
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My Morgan needed front suspension overhaul at 45000 miles, I think the plastic material were replaced with brass at the time. I am however an enthusiastic greaser, almost weekly ;-)
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 The tacky grease seems to flushes out the older grease after a few hundred miles without actually mixing.
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Trying to clean my hands after greasing with Red 'n Tacky yesterday, I understand the tacky bit! Does the factory use or recommend Red n Tacky? Short answer......no.
Jays Former Morgan owner. Gone but hopefully not forgotten!
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The most important grease point is the one in the sliding stub axle. You guys going to Caramulo should be able to organise a shot of grease before the return trip if you really feel it is necessary. You only have to lay in front of the car and then turn the wheels full lock one way, and then the other, to easily get at each nipple. Any small workshop could do it.
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The most important grease point is the one in the sliding stub axle. You guys going to Caramulo should be able to organise a shot of grease before the return trip if you really feel it is necessary. You only have to lay in front of the car and then turn the wheels full lock one way, and then the other, to easily get at each nipple. Any small workshop could do it. Or some fool with overalls, Peter..  We have straws to draw..
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Someone.......  ........is bringing a grease Gun! NOT me!
Jays Former Morgan owner. Gone but hopefully not forgotten!
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