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Following a driving trip through France and Spain, I have received a fine for speeding in Spain. The notification states the date and time of the offence as 14:00 hours on the 25th May, 2025. Both my Dashcam and Garmin GPS trip log show I was in France at the time of the alleged offence. However, for the Direccion General de Trafico (DGT) to have a record of my car registration, a speed camera must have recorded an image of my car, but a copy of it was not included with the notification letter.
As both the dashcam and Garmin have recorded the same location and time the camera must be at fault in recording time. That being so, its accuracy in registering speed must be in doubt.
Communicating with the DGE isn’t straightforward. It has to be by post or telex. Email is not an option.
As I will probably return to Spain in the same car I don’t want to encounter problems in the future, so I’m inclined to grudgingly pay the fine on the basis it’s not worth wasting the time and effort to challenge it. However, knowing the DGE is wrong as to the time of any offence makes this unpalatable.
Has anyone had experience of dealing with Spanish speeding fines?
Ken
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Possible thoughts.
If you are a member of the RAC AA or some other program prepare a summary as you have above and send it to them asking for advice, in many cases cover for legal and other things is included when abroad.
Dumb question but have you factored the 1-2 hour difference? Are you dashcams on UK time against local time in region ? Just a thought ?
Has your plate been cloned, any other reports of oddness, given you had been that way it is an outside possibility but you never know.
Looking at the interweb there does appear to be a pay it and ask for proof (to get the half price if nothing else) however the chances of reclaiming may be a stretch based on comments on line.
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To my suspicious mind, and Spanish plod might wonder the same thing, its odd that you mention dashcam and gps log but dont say that you know yourself you werent in Spain. After all their electronics say you were. Could it be a scam? Have you traced to communications origin etc?
Anyway, Spanish bureaucracy can be very long winded and old fashioned. No experience of their police but other issues dealt with at the local ayuntamineto , which is where local police are based, took forever and needed to be in Spanish.
If the fine is not a silly amount, it may well be easier simply to pay.
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I had a similar issue in Venice….or should I say going over the bridge onto it. I got a fine for speeding in a hire car and at the time recorded we had parked in a car park and were on a vaperetto. It proved impossible to get anyone from the car parking co to respond and I reluctantly could not challenge the fine so accepted the hire companies charge on my card ! The Sunday Times had a small piece on this subject recently and I think some EU countries follow up and places like France don’t ? Cannot remember but still have it somewhere for reference. Having done thousands of continental miles over the last few years and many since Brexit . I have not had any fines although I know I have triggered the odd camera. Every time I come home I ‘worry’ for a month or so - in that period now…. Getting a laser gun stop does trigger ‘payable fines’ in some countries we visit in our UK car and I would accept that - thankfully been a tad lucky on occasions.
Once I got ‘done’ but braked hard, swung left into a residential side road, new houses bing built and drove into someone’s open garage ……..true story, came out 15 mins later and drove past the police officers . I still pass this spot regularly when visiting this country . Hope this does not make me a bad person and I am now driving slower so perhaps it had the desired effect. Best MM PS Suggest you pay up if you are taking the car again.
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