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Another problem with "crate engines" is that the ECUs require inputs from multiple sensors or devices. The days of simple cars died with the Rover V8, I feel.
As cars get more like computers this need gets ever more difficult to manage: Simon mentioned that the Jaguar V8 needs inputs from many, many things, including the steering pump, I guess because as the load increases the engine has to respond. If it isn't a Jaguar steering pump it won't play.
This need for support may be why MMC seems to be getting further and further into bed with BMW.
So it looks like keeping an eye on Bmw's bigger engines to see whats next in a Mog , they do have some nice engines thank goodness !
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Another problem with "crate engines" is that the ECUs require inputs from multiple sensors or devices. The days of simple cars died with the Rover V8, I feel.
As cars get more like computers this need gets ever more difficult to manage: Simon mentioned that the Jaguar V8 needs inputs from many, many things, including the steering pump, I guess because as the load increases the engine has to respond. If it isn't a Jaguar steering pump it won't play.
This need for support may be why MMC seems to be getting further and further into bed with BMW.
I think this is the easy way Peter, particularly if you want add ons like ABS. And I guess that is soon to be compulsory. That said I am sure there are electronics guys out there who could supply an ECU and certainly there are lots who can adjust one on a rolling road. The MMC approach with the roadster where they even use Ford instruments definitely smacks a bit of "lets take the easy way".
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That looks and sounds awesome Simon - had a RAM Cobra in the past, but with a Ford small-block as we had a Ford Dealership at the time. That Adrian Reynard designed chassis is a proper job! Would still like a C-Type Replica, but from Suffolk Sportscars. Just have to think how to get it past the finance committee...  and find somewhere to park it!
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That looks and sounds awesome Simon - had a RAM Cobra in the past, but with a Ford small-block as we had a Ford Dealership at the time. That Adrian Reynard designed chassis is a proper job! Would still like a C-Type Replica, but from Suffolk Sportscars. Just have to think how to get it past the finance committee...  and find somewhere to park it! Had 6 ram's over the years as well as 7 GT40 replicas ( yes I know I need help). Ram was always streets ahead. Damn nearly bought the whole project from adrian cocking a few years ago until the price quadrupled overnight.....ah well. Simon
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Would still like a C-Type Replica, but from Suffolk Sportscars. Just have to think how to get it past the finance committee...  and find somewhere to park it! I've been tempted - and by the SS too.
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Would still like a C-Type Replica, but from Suffolk Sportscars. Just have to think how to get it past the finance committee...  and find somewhere to park it! I've been tempted - and by the SS too. Can't find any prices on the website , any ideas ?
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Aeroman & Neilda,
I have had a Suffolk SS100, works built and a brilliant car. Sold it to buy a 1964 4.2 E Type S1 o.t.s. and have now sold that and am having a full aluminium works built C Type due for delivery next year. Can't wait as they are such fun.
Here for a good time not a long time!! Reg
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Ali c type is on my want list. I've spoken to Suffolk a few times at shows but they never seem to return calls so I gave up trying. Maybe I'm not target demographic.
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Had 6 ram's over the years as well as 7 GT40 replicas ( yes I know I need help). Ram was always streets ahead. Damn nearly bought the whole project from adrian cocking a few years ago until the price quadrupled overnight.....ah well. Simon Love to hear more about each of the cars, I've had the same car obsession (non-treatable  ), but for Morgan's - on my sixth Aero (a Plus 8!) with 7-Trads in the past and 1-M3W, which I mistakenly let go.  Maybe a separate thread Simon with more details of your cars and the near purchase of RAM? Sounds like a great story and that last Cobra with the supercharged Jaguar engine must have been a beast! We could also get Reg (lowebird) to give more details of his Suffolk, particularly his new C-type due for delivery next year? Both Asbo, Neil and me would love to hear more of the experience. Crunchie and I share an Ultima GTR and also a Westfield FW400 (up for sale) so also have an appetite for kit cars as well as the Mog obsession...
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http://www.jaguarreplicas.com/This gives some choice and figures !
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