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Re: Factory Stage 2 Performance Kit. Timothy #398878 11/10/16 12:55 PM
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,562 Cheshire, UK nippymog Talk Morgan Enthusiast
nippymog Talk Morgan Enthusiast Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,562 Cheshire, UK	Originally Posted By Timothy the ECU that comes with Morgan's kit is programmed for the stock 52mm unit Where did you find this gem Tim ?

Re: Factory Stage 2 Performance Kit. nippymog #398990 11/10/16 09:25 PM
Joined: May 2016 Posts: 541 North West USA T Timothy Talk Morgan Regular
Timothy Talk Morgan Regular T Joined: May 2016 Posts: 541 North West USA	Originally Posted By nippymog Originally Posted By Timothy the ECU that comes with Morgan's kit is programmed for the stock 52mm unit Where did you find this gem Tim ? I bought the kit from my Morgan dealer and he got it from Morgan. And the missing parts from the kit my dealer bought from S&S. 1998 +8 SS Sport tuned exhaust 2013 M3W Stage ll motor kit Cats removed

Re: Factory Stage 2 Performance Kit. Timothy #399054 12/10/16 08:25 AM
Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 66 O Osama OP Just Getting Started
OP Osama Just Getting Started O Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 66	Originally Posted By Timothy Originally Posted By Osama I just received a reply from the factory through my dealer about stage 2, and stage 3 performance upgrades. Stage 2: stage 1 + Cam's, Throttle body, Ecu. Adds +30 hp more. £2500 Stage 3: Stage2 + CNC over ported heads , Cam's, Throttle body, Rockers, Ecu. +50 hp. £9,795. This is BS, you need to talk to Chris at S&S to get the correct info. Stage ll will get you around 10HP and 21 torque. Also the 58mm throttle body that Morgan charges you for and is supplied in their Stage ll kit is worthless, as the ECU that comes with Morgan's kit is programmed for the stock 52mm unit and is locked, so you can't tune for the larger 58mm throttle body if you wanted to. Tim, according to my dealer this stage 2 is a new kit that includes Cams upgrade as well it took the factory a week to structure and finalize the price for it before the pass it to me, as it wasn't offered before. (According to my dealer) !!?? I my self find the 30 hp is way high. I am sure RWHP is less.

Re: Factory Stage 2 Performance Kit. Osama #399099 12/10/16 12:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 836 Florida, USA Krod Talk Morgan Regular
Krod Talk Morgan Regular Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 836 Florida, USA	has anyone on TM gotten a stage 3 at this point? I have heard there are a number of stage 2s, but wondered how crazy that huge boost in price compares to its performance levels and if its even usable anymore. I still feel for that price you would be just as well dropping a larger engine into the car or fabricate lighter paneling. Where is Colin Chapman when you need him?

Re: Factory Stage 2 Performance Kit. Osama #399110 12/10/16 02:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 2,539 Detroit, Michigan, USA Draggin Talk Morgan Expert
Draggin Talk Morgan Expert Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 2,539 Detroit, Michigan, USA	Can the rest of the drivetrian take all that power, it seems to be grunting and moaning stock! kirkusblog.com 2016 M3W John A Prestwich Special 1952 Ford 8N 1968 Honda CL175,and 2018 Ural Retro

Re: Factory Stage 2 Performance Kit. Draggin #399116 12/10/16 02:43 PM
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Krod Talk Morgan Regular Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 836 Florida, USA	Originally Posted By Draggin Can the rest of the drivetrian take all that power, it seems to be grunting and moaning stock! That ismy thought. I figured it might make more sense to add lightness.

Re: Factory Stage 2 Performance Kit. Osama #399123 12/10/16 03:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 462 Boca Raton, Florida USA JVS Learner Plates Off!
JVS Learner Plates Off! Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 462 Boca Raton, Florida USA	I think I would fall into the Stage 3 category. The costs were around $7,300 dollars. Maybe buying a brand new 132CI and selling off the original motor would make more sense if money was no object? I'm having the ECU tune upgrade next week since I have now broken in the new motor parts. An S&S authorized dealer has been able to open up the Morgan programming to enable timing changes too. (he has many old S&S tuning programs) My machine has had no problems with the greater torque of the 128CI. I'll send more feedback after the new tune is installed. Here are the final pictures of the motor build. https://www.dropbox.com/sc/vspd441tyl0hly4/AAB_t6SEJ5E78AGN8ltsuwc3a?oref=e&n=328228305 128CI Engine Upgrade: New larger pistons and jugs (cylinders) New heads with larger valves Roller Rocker kit Camshaft Kit 569E 58mm throttle body Bore thru to open up the stock exhaust Titanium exhaust rap Confederate clear crankcase cover Confederate Aluminum fined valve covers new bearings and cam belt ECU reprogrammed - after break-in miles UltraCool Oil Cooler - still to install Empire Front Suspension Kit (modified Tie Rod End) Ohlin’s Adjustable Front and Rear Shocks LED Headlights Moto-Lita Wood Rimmed 4 Post Aluminum Steering Wheel Aluminum Engine Turn Dash Panels Raydat Racing Mirror with a wide angle mirror Three Ear Wheel Spinner Super Max Rear Sprocket Moved the Rectifier from the Engine to a Frame Mounting Upgraded to the Centa Drive Removable Transmission Mount Replacement Clutch Installed Replacement Throw Out Bearing Replacement Blockley Tyres Last edited by JVS; 12/10/16 03:45 PM. JV Sclafani Boca Raton, FL '13 M3W Metallic Orange Pearl 128CI Steered by Empire - Riding on Ohlins

Re: Factory Stage 2 Performance Kit. Osama #399151 12/10/16 06:30 PM
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hbatts Talk Morgan Regular H Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 582 94611	JVS, I installed the roller rockers and am thinking about the 569 cams. Did the new heads come with the relief for the roller rocker pushrods? I was told by S&S that I could use stock heads but would need a new programable ECU for the 569 cams. Was your information the same? Thanks

Re: Factory Stage 2 Performance Kit. JVS #399212 13/10/16 04:21 AM
Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 66 O Osama OP Just Getting Started
OP Osama Just Getting Started O Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 66	Originally Posted By JVS I think I would fall into the Stage 3 category. The costs were around $7,300 dollars. Maybe buying a brand new 132CI and selling off the original motor would make more sense if money was no object? I'm having the ECU tune upgrade next week since I have now broken in the new motor parts. An S&S authorized dealer has been able to open up the Morgan programming to enable timing changes too. (he has many old S&S tuning programs) My machine has had no problems with the greater torque of the 128CI. I'll send more feedback after the new tune is installed. Here are the final pictures of the motor build. https://www.dropbox.com/sc/vspd441tyl0hly4/AAB_t6SEJ5E78AGN8ltsuwc3a?oref=e&n=328228305 128CI Engine Upgrade: New larger pistons and jugs (cylinders) New heads with larger valves Roller Rocker kit Camshaft Kit 569E 58mm throttle body Bore thru to open up the stock exhaust Titanium exhaust rap Confederate clear crankcase cover Confederate Aluminum fined valve covers new bearings and cam belt ECU reprogrammed - after break-in miles UltraCool Oil Cooler - still to install Empire Front Suspension Kit (modified Tie Rod End) Ohlin’s Adjustable Front and Rear Shocks LED Headlights Moto-Lita Wood Rimmed 4 Post Aluminum Steering Wheel Aluminum Engine Turn Dash Panels Raydat Racing Mirror with a wide angle mirror Three Ear Wheel Spinner Super Max Rear Sprocket Moved the Rectifier from the Engine to a Frame Mounting Upgraded to the Centa Drive Removable Transmission Mount Replacement Clutch Installed Replacement Throw Out Bearing Replacement Blockley Tyres Nice Job JVS

Re: Factory Stage 2 Performance Kit. Osama #400002 16/10/16 08:27 PM
Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 306 Round Rock TX greenteagod Learner Plates Off!
greenteagod Learner Plates Off! Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 306 Round Rock TX	Yes, those are exactly what I was trying to find as far as the valve covers go. I have to say, I'm digging the clear cover as well. Were those custom made covers or is that like an off the shelf part from Confederate? I'd been trying to locate some but haven't had much luck. I'm not terribly experienced in the motorcycle world anyway, but would love some more info on those.

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