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ITG do specific packages for different engines I think.. the MAF sensor can be quite sensative therefore it's worth looking at existing kits if they can be used...

Do you have some pics of the current engine packaging?

Andrew,

No specific kit for a trad unfortunately. Andy Jackson did come up with a couple of ideas and sometime over the next month or so I'll get the car up to Coventry and he's going to take a look at it.

There are a couple more photos of the packaging here:

http://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthreads.php/galleries/33071/The_Elephants_Trunk#comments

http://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthreads.php/galleries/33150/The_Elephant_s_Trunk_2#comments

regards,
G

Hi,

I'm also a cynic, I don't think it adds that much power, but throttle response is much improved....and I love the sound.

By the way, have you checked out Burton Power? they provide all sorts for tuning the whole range of Ford engines plus lots of useful info and guidance.

good luck

I haven't...but I can get one...

cheers

would appreciate taking a look

Burton's are good, if a little expensive in comparison to other suppliers... for the most part I've had most success going to the manufacturer directly. Especially as Morgan parts can be "a little different".

Take my new flywheel for example.... Morgan put a CVH "in-line" rather than transverse and mounted it to a Type 9 gearbox...

On the original Ford flywheel installed the part number has been gound off. I'm guessing by either ford who helped with the original package, or Morgan. Suffice to say getting a replacement part.. or performance version there-of was next to impossible.

As I've moved to using a dowel'd Crank I've had a lightweight competition flywheel made. From recollection the OEM unit was 9kg and the lightweight version is ~5kg and funnily enough is based on a Pinto unit with a different bolt pattern... it really transforms the drivability of the car.

We can now supply these fitted through www.mogworks.co.uk aka Miller Commercial Motors in High Wycombe.

They use Zetec engines in Caterham's, check this out, looks good and does away with the trunking....would there be room?

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rgds

Wow.. that's 5 right angle bends and some pretty crinkled piping... there's got to be gains to be had with some pretty simple smoothing of the routing.

Would it be possible to re-locate the MAF sensor above the throttle body.. turning it horizontal and mounting something like an ITG Maxogen housing directly above it with the Maxogen housing intake pointing forward possibly to a NACA duct in the RHS of the bonnet?

http://www.itgairfilters.com/airboxes.asp?section=maxogenairboxes

There is a 1.8 Focus installation that might be able to be modified slightly to suit.. or at least ITG will have experience of the engine charactereistics and therefore only packaging will be the complication??

We talked about the Focus set up but, of course, I have the slight added problem that my engine is a silvertop ( and therefore arguably a pre-Focus engine). A daft question perhaps, but is that going to mean different chcharcterisitics and so rule out using a Focus 1.8 kit as a basis?

I’m thinking we may be able to replace the existing airbox with a Maxogen BAB65, but it may well not clear the bonnet – the ducting would also be a bit long, but looking at the standard setup I think it may work a little better.

We could leave the Maxogen in the same place as the filter housing is now and perhaps go for a ' +4 supersports-type bulge on the LH side of the bonnet but I'm getting very conflicting data as to whether that inside edge is still a low pressure area

The only other option I can see would be to move the MAF towards the front of the engine bay – this would involve lengthening the wiring, but with only 5 or 6 wires, this wouldn’t be as big a job as you think. This would allow us to hopefully still squeeze an airbox in and run a very short duct. As long as the relative distance from the MAF to the throttle body doesn’t change much, I don't think it should affect the performance.

G

Yes, I've used a fair bit of their stuff- and as you say, the guides in their cataloguecan be a very useful starting point

The Raceline Engineering site is also worth a look

regards,
G