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SpeedMog #434126 04/03/17 03:13 PM
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Pill,

I assume that no one has been brave/foolish enough to seriously try a 4.8 BMW engined Aero Plus 8?

But if there is a documented time i'd be very interested to know how it compares...

Peter


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Originally Posted By Peter J
Pill,

I assume that no one has been brave/foolish enough to seriously try a 4.8 BMW engined Aero Plus 8?

But if there is a documented time i'd be very interested to know how it compares...

Peter


I don't recall anyone entering one in the Speed series although there have been a couple of Aero's in the race challenge over the years... Not as fast as you would think though due to weight. In standard form they would be the same class as the modified Plus 8 and in any modified form they would be in the same class as the modsport Plus 8.

In case anyone's wondering all tyres have to be road legal although the RAC Motorsport Association puts different tyres into groups. The 4/4 times were set on the most std tyre types...


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I had my very standard Plus 8 weighed, it came out with me in it and half a tank of fuel, at 1250kg. I'm sure Rover Plus 8s are lighter. But do they have 367bhp, with 361 ft lbs peak torque at 3400 rpm?

BUT, for a hill climb the grip of the rear tyres, the sophisticated suspension and the very powerful brakes will all help carry speed through corners.

I did a training day at Gurston Down: the Plus 8s ability to lose speed allowed me to brake later than the recommended points, the power steering made it easy to put on lock quickly and then a lot of throttle got me out of the corners quickly. I was crossing the line at 80 plus.

Not having to change gear also helped....

I was tempted to take up hill climbing but I can't afford to bend the car. Hill climbs have too many banks and barriers. But I may still go down the Auto Solo route.


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Originally Posted By Peter J
I had my very standard Plus 8 weighed, it came out with me in it and half a tank of fuel, at 1250kg. I'm sure Rover Plus 8s are lighter. But do they have 367bhp, with 361 ft lbs peak torque at 3400 rpm?

BUT, for a hill climb the grip of the rear tyres, the sophisticated suspension and the very powerful brakes will all help carry speed through corners.

I did a training day at Gurston Down: the Plus 8s ability to lose speed allowed me to brake later than the recommended points, the power steering made it easy to put on lock quickly and then a lot of throttle got me out of the corners quickly. I was crossing the line at 80 plus.

Not having to change gear also helped....

I was tempted to take up hill climbing but I can't afford to bend the car. Hill climbs have too many banks and barriers. But I may still go down the Auto Solo route.


The ARV6 is actually the best production car for power to weight and is in the same class group as Aero/Modern P8. That has 320 BHP and the regulation weight for racing is 950KG. So yes...the trad cars are a lot lighter and not far off in terms of max power but definitely superior from a power to weight point of view.

The brakes on ARV6 and the suspension will match a std Aero too.

The other factor which greatly helps Trad cars is the fact you can remove windscreens. This has quite an effect on top speed and the fact a trad has a smaller frontal area helps too...

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Nice reading, Phil. Keep it coming, mate..!


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Welcome Gill and I believe you hold the record for the fastest growing post in 1 day!


thanks Bob!


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