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Originally Posted By KenShapiro

Yours is the best possible situation!
Not sure what that means, but thanks?

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Originally Posted By Mark H

These exhausts have covered 7500 miles and are the 1.5mm modified variant.


That's an amazing mileage. About 4x more then any of my exhaust sets lasted so far.

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Originally Posted By greenteagod
Get some pictures up of that. Hell might be good to compile a list with images of all the frame issues, maybe with model year as well. Good reference for where to look during regular check overs.

You could start here;
chassis cracks

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Originally Posted By RedThree
You could start here;
chassis cracks


Thanks, I'll do so and scrub around some other posts as well. Hopefully you run into more of a Wedge situation with yours and not a Biggs.

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Calum my crack is very similar to your 2013 crack on L/H side. Maybe the welded in fillet is doing more harm than good. Did MMC cover full repair cost with both incidences?

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Matty, you raise a very significant point on the issue of “fit for purpose”

I have followed what seems to have been a rather sorry tail of the early versions of the M3W for some time and am surprised this as not been considered more seriously although I recall it has been raised on this forum previously.

Given the litany of problems with bevel boxes, broken exhausts, bump steer and chassis cracking etc; it would seem the vehicle may not fit for purpose and could be dangerous.

Sure, work with Morgan on a fix for these early vehicles if there is one but it could be worthwhile making a clear, factual, structured submission to the relevant motoring authorities in the UK, Europe or the US as well as the appropriate consumer authorities. It’s not a difficult exercise and at least they are on notice.

The consumer authorities course of action (called Fair Trading “downunder”) was considered in Australia when suspension and compliance issues first appeared and we got stone walled however the Federal Department of Infrastructure and Transport (our motoring mandarins) stepped up to the plate very sharply to sort the issue and as we now know have been keeping a eye on things.

Originally Posted By Matty
Sorry to hear your new woe.

Dont take no for an answer!!!!

I did think that the triangulation would just push the stresses back towards the main chassis This is a very widespread problem, I personally checked every early 3W at the meets I went too. At each event we found cracks and in one case double shears on at least 30% of the 3W' attending. I am really not exagerating this. Its one of the reasons I gave up and sold mine. I am not convinced the chassis is at all fit for purpose. Apparantly it is just bog standard mild steel.
I am convinced there are a lot of 3W's out there with cracks that the owners are blissfully unaware of. Unless your on Talk Morgan how are you going to find out?
Well apart from the hard way. Someone could get killed and Morgan appear not to give a damm.


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i have the chance to drive 2 times M3W, but i never consider to buy one for all of this problem the car/bike is fun but come with a price and have several issue not yet solve, i feel when one is solve come out an other one.

I hope the E3W will not take face at such trouble




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Tim, talk directly with the factory - MMC covered the cost for my cracked chassis, chassis replacement under extended warranty following the mandated chassis inspection. For me both sides had cracked and Matty found them to my utter horror at Brooklands, I was glad he did though.

I had some additional mods done at my expense at the same time.

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Took another look at Calum's crack photos - the worst part of that location is there is no accessibility for a welder torch. That would require major strip down of the body and components.


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Originally Posted By TimG
Calum my crack is very similar to your 2013 crack on L/H side. Maybe the welded in fillet is doing more harm than good. Did MMC cover full repair cost with both incidences?

Tim
Hi Tim
Yes, MMC did both change outs F.o.C. Both times the car went back to Perth as the logistics of getting it to me in Aberdeen when I was actually here to receive it were just going to be much more of a pain than me jumping on the train to Perth.
That kind of bracket is very inclined to move the stress raiser and the failure point rather than preventing it. I've been involved with ship repairs and modifications where a similar arrangement was used but the end of the bracket was very carefully shaped to maintain flexibility and the weld was built up then ground back smooth to avoid the stress raiser of the sharp turn in the weld so that the fatigue life would be greatly extended.
I had my doubts about the bolt in triangulation brace being effective enough to restrict the movement sufficiently to prevent the cracks initiating and if they were already there, possibly subsurface, then stopping their propagation would be unlikely. New chassis has to be the best option.

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