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Hi has anyone fitted an electric power steering kit to an older +8 , I have a 96 and with the larger tires it's very heavy through roundabouts, I think I have seen a kit that replaces the existing column. If not many new small cars now have electric steering which I may retrofit .
Thanks Dave
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Hello Dave
I fitted electric power steering to my 2001 plus 8. I have had it removed and returned tonoriginal at some expense. The issues were water ingress via large holes cut into bulkhead and consequent electrical failure.
If I were to do it again I would choose hydraulic, less to go wrong.
A full and illustrated account of the issues with my car appears in earlier posts on this forum
Best wishes
David
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Hi has anyone fitted an electric power steering kit to an older +8 , I have a 96 and with the larger tires it's very heavy through roundabouts, I think I have seen a kit that replaces the existing column. If not many new small cars now have electric steering which I may retrofit .
Thanks Dave Some of that weight/load may be down to the front suspension. We had a 2009 Roadster, with 205 section tyres. After having both hard chrome king pins and Suplex front suspension fitted by Williams the steering load was significantly less. As far as fitting power steering is concerned, most of the modern electrical systems use what is in effect, a motorised rack. The steering column still has a direct connection through the pinion on the rack, but there is a helper pinion with an electric motor that mirrors the main column. It is all very clever and small. There is quite a good explanation in Wiki, here The new Plus 8 has an hydraulic system, but I'm told, an electric power steering pump!
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Many thanks for the feedback David , it was very interesting reading your report of your experience, I may be rethinking my options .
Peter , i do already have the hard chrome kingpins and Mulberry bearings under the springs , these did improve on the original setup and when driving at slower speeds the effort is heavy but acceptable, I find things too heavy when parking but my biggest concern is when quickly going from lock to lock at tighter roundabouts at speed .
I do also have a hydraulic steering damper fitted so perhaps before things get complicated I will experiment by removing it in case it is fighting me .
Thanks for the comments guys
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Hmmm, press-ups, pull-ups and a Bullworker (anyone remember them?) 
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Hmmm, press-ups, pull-ups and a Bullworker (anyone remember them?) Or narrower tyres pumped up a bit?
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Or narrower tyres pumped up a bit?
Couldn't quite bring myself to suggest changing to a 4/4 Tim! 
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Hmmm, press-ups, pull-ups and a Bullworker (anyone remember them?) The only time I tried a Bullworker type of chest expander....I trapped a nipple. Never been the same since!
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I replaced the 14" Motolita wheel with a 15" model, which I had lying around in the garage, just out of curiosity. Interesting effect: Steering effort is significantly reduced, but getting in and out of the Morgan is not as easy as it was before due to reduced space between the wheel and the seat. And changing direction at roundabouts is somewhat slower because you have a larger wheel to turn. But I like the feeling of the larger wheel, it also reduces the feedback forces, which makes driving on bad roads smoother.
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I don't see why electric power steering should be an issue if correctly fitted. A previous poster seems to have suffered at the hands of cowboys. I know of several people that have had it retro-fitted to various classic cars with good results. I've spoken to the company below at a Classic Car event and was very impressed. They had a demonstrator (Jaguar XK150) and the installation looked very neat. Might be worth talking to them. http://www.ezpowersteering.nl/23/Home.htmlI'm getting one for my own car (Jaguar) once the restoration is a bit further on.
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