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Originally Posted By pandy
Originally Posted By griffo
You're lucky Bjorn,
Some older members tell me they have trouble getting the horn at all...................


Well, I have to say the thread title did remind me of an affliction I suffered as a teenager.....


rofl


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Today I was in the garage again. Unfortunaltely the horn push was not the main problem. frown

One positive thing was that I now have some strong indication on where the problem is. If I pull and wiggle on the red cable, the horn goes on.



So now I need to dig deeper into the steering column.
Anyone here that have experience in this area. How to get into the steering column?
The obvious thing is the big nut in the picture above.



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Ok. Things have moved forward.
Today i took the boss off and doing so, I could locate the problem.



The metal ring was loose, and sometimes the big lump of solder could make contact with the boss, and so starting the horn.

As you can see, the wire has now broken off. So now I need to re-solder that, and glue the ring to the cork backing


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Good luck, glad you solved the problem


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Yes, a big relief to have found the problem.

The wire has now been soldered on again, and I am currently in the process of glueing the ring back on to the boss.


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Well, well. There was a quite interesing part 2 of this story. I try to tell it here in case someone has use for it.

When the ring was back on the boss, and everything assembled, the horn worked OK for a while. The the problem returned.
mad mad confused2

This time the problem was a bit more complicated.
Try to follow me here. Look at this picture:


At the back end of the boss (where the slip ring is) there is a piece of shiny cover. Because of the angle of the boss, the slipring have a bit of contact with this cover.
The cover is made of metal. Since the horn is wired so, that it goes off when the slipring make contact with earth, now that rule goes for the whole shiny cover. I did not realise this at first.

After that my thought was that the culprit could be a screw that holds the contact for the slipring. That could make contact with the cover from the back.
That idea was wrong. There was a bit of insulation on the back of the cover to prevent this.

However. On the bottom part of the steering column, there is another metal cover, covered in some black leather stuff. See this picture:


As you can see, the black stuff has come loose a bit in one corner.

Now for the final part. The horn started when this hapened:
Slipring has contact with shiny metal cover - Shiny metal cover makes contact with the lower cover via the exposed corner - Lower cover has contact with steering column from the underside - Horn starts

Quick solution was easy, remove the lower cover.
Long term solution: fix lower cover and insulate the back of the upper shiny cover.

Me happy
happy3


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More twists and turns than an Agatha Christie mystery sherlock


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Nice find Bjorn. thumbs


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