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MarioCP #448688 13/05/17 10:45 PM
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Well Done, Portugal..!!

You do realise you're now hosting a TM / Eurovision party next year now, Mario.. joy


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Con grats, great stuff.


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The singers sister (who also wrote the winning entry) joined for the final reprise and I have to say her voice was stunning. Quite beautiful.


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MarioCP #448692 13/05/17 11:04 PM
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Thank you, it was nice to win for a change. I got used to 0 or very few points over the years. Particularly proud that our winning entry was sung in our language smile


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MarioCP #448693 13/05/17 11:10 PM
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Parabéns Mario.
Devo confessar que eu perdi o concurso ... foi forçado a sair e provar muitos whiskys diferentes de todo o mundo hoje à noite.

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LOL Calum, amazing that you're still able to write anything! Thank you for your kind gesture smile


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Você é bem-vinda, e esta noite era um trabalho sujo, mas alguém tinha que fazer isso!

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Congratulations Portugal. I caught the final song when I came in after taking the dog for a walk. I'm very happy that I came back in time.

We are listening to it on YouTube now smile


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Originally Posted By howard
Ever heard anyone singing opera in English? Of course not - opera is done mainly in Italian though I believe the French insist on it being translated into frog. Pop music on the other hand has been dominated by the Americans and to a much lesser extent by us, so its overwhelmingly in English. sSo what.

Does any of that really matter?


The ENO have, for at least 20 years to my knowledge and possibly for much longer, sung exclusively in English.

English opera has had a very mixed history, but is in rude good health today. Before they were renamed English National Opera in the 1960s, the Sadler's Wells opera company sang the world premiere of Britten's Peter Grimes, which was the first really internationally successful opera in English for 300 years or so, since Henry Purcell's day. But today you'll find ENO, the Welsh and Scottish national companies, and many of the great festival operas (notably Glyndebourne and Garsington) regularly putting on works in English translation, in addition to vast numbers of professional, semi-pro and amateur productions across the UK and North America.

Otherwise, operas tend to have been written in the language of their sponsor or librettist. Mozart, for example, was equally happy composing music for Italian (La Nozze di Figaro) librettists as he was for German (Die Zauberflöte) words. It mostly depended on who commissioned the work.


Thanks for that. I am embarrassed to be told about ENO by a colonial laugh but hey ho!. I guess the reply from Nick W's daughter sums it up . G&S is more an early "musical" IMO

But I am not sure that the issue of langua9ge in music matters that much. Certainly in pop music, its the beat and the tune that I recognise, and I rarely register the lyric other than in ballads.

If its any comfort to Mario, the language of pop isnt English but American, and it grates with me to hear British singers adopt a faux American accent when singing. They seem to think that its vital to do so. I suppose that this is the result of Coca colonisation that the UK is particularly vulnerable to. Do we have a culture of our own any longer? I'm not sure.

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Originally Posted By howard
Do we have a culture of our own any longer? I'm not sure.

Aye, we dae.


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