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It makes you shudder the very thought of it ooo..


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She is not very good at taking sly sick days either!


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Originally Posted By sospan
Just imagine...she could end up as Home Secretary! scared


Slight tangent - but we were discussing the impending election last night at home and were wondering whether Labour could actually win. The problem is that the last "left" Labour government was between 1974 and 1979 - to have been "actively" and consciously impacted by it you'd have needed to be of voting age when it was elected - putting your birth year around 1957ish.

Combine that with the fact that 1975 was effectively the start of the IRAs Long War and you begin to get the feeling that 2017 could give us that 1970s feeling all over again.

(I apologize for the serious interlude - the powers that be are welcome to amputate this post for the greater good)


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Yep back to 3 day weeks, rubbish on the street and massive inflation. Cameron's legacy is not a good one.


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It's a different world now. Go back to 1945 when Labour created the Health Service and the Tories were fighting tooth and claw against it. They said we couldn't afford it then. I'm voting for hope this time, not more failure. Therefore I'm voting Labour. However, isn't this a bit off-thread?


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Originally Posted By Fox Terrier
It's a different world now. Go back to 1945 when Labour created the Health Service and the Tories were fighting tooth and claw against it. They said we couldn't afford it then. I'm voting for hope this time, not more failure. Therefore I'm voting Labour. However, isn't this a bit off-thread?


If it was a single-issue referendum about the NHS, then I would vote Labour too.


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It seems Ms Abbot is unwell....

So possibly Health Secretary getcoat


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Originally Posted By Fox Terrier
It's a different world now. Go back to 1945 when Labour created the Health Service and the Tories were fighting tooth and claw against it. They said we couldn't afford it then.


70 years later they've proved to be right laugh

If we could just go back to accepting that it is perfectly OK to die of a heart attack at 55 from a daily diet of s full English breakfast, 6 pints after work and a pack n'half of woodbines the NHS wouldn't cost as much as it does.

But oh no 24 year old 38st fish and chip addict Caroline has a genetic condition which means the NHS has to pony up 10k for her to have her stomach stapled so that 5 weeks after the surgery she can end up back in hospital because the staples burst after she enjoyed a liquidized super-sized double Big-Mac meal.

And 92 year old Edith from Melton Mowbray can chew through 12 different tablets a day, dispensed by an army of home carers because she is in the grip of the latter stages of Alzeimhers and she can't remember whether she has taken her tablets, what day it is or whether she is off to the memory clinic.
(The last one I'm rather too familiar with)

The voting public could have everything they wanted if they were willing to pony up a 65% tax rate.

(Sorry - again - I've already arranged my EXIT visit so no need to panic!)


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Probably could do with an "NHS" thread to discuss this. The NHS simply wasn't conceived to deal with the diseases of over-consumption and relative affluence. There are going to be some hard decisions taken soon but I'd rather them be taken on clinical and ethical principles than financial.


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