Talk Morgan Forums Morgan Sports Cars Morgan Aero 8, 2012< Plus 8, SuperSports, Coupe & Aeromax Morgan EvaGT: discussing the CAR (not MMC)

I like it,
also the fact they want to make it a bit more normal on some points (wipers/doorhandles/...)

I would like to see:
double clutch automatic
adjustable shocks
very very simple dashboard
very supportive seats

I really like the First drawing.

For me, if they are going for a 4 places, only 300bhp, it is to create a comfortable sport car for relax cruising. (Like the Ferrari California, Jaguar XK,...)

so I would like to see:
*Comfort oriented suspension.
*Simple refine interior Design.
*Quite inside, even at +100 mph.
*Better and softer steering.
*Better air conditioning/Heater control and sealing.

Steven,
I have only one word- twice:
excitement, excitement.

G

Interesting points Steven and some great ideas.

PDK would be cool, but I think the weight penalty is going to be too great given the strict weight target. (I still don't see how they are going to a make a bigger car weigh less than an Aeromax)

Adjustable shocks - sounds good. Magnetic dampers? Like the magic Audi a8 ones might be ideal?

Simple dashboard - something like the Rolls Royce approach?



Rather too much wood there I think, but the general simplicity of everything is very nice.



Also like the turned metal from the series 1 Aero - but perhaps another fine example is the Bentley Arnage T.

Also I'd want to see quality switches all the way through. Metal flip switches, not plastic buttons. Knurled ally dials, and chrome plated (if not actually metal) air grilles.

Good seats are a must, and the must fold and slide to provide good access to the rear. A good example for this is the Maserati Coupes - 3200/4200/Gransport GranTurismo, that provide adequate access space for adults..

I'd also want proper aerodynamics - a diffuser that really works and provides downforce - as well as resolving the rear of the car well.

I'd like to see sidepipes as well - or at least flush mounted rear pipes..

Ok - enough of me bitching about power levels. The straight six with twin turbos (N55) looks like it will offer substantial options for tweaking anyway.

I've sent a couple of mailsto get some suggestions, but being a Turbo engine, the option to increase power on an aftermarket basis is significant, so maybe I don't need to worry about that side of things after all..

friend has this engine: 361 (euro) HP and 400+NM

dashboard: more like TRAD
LESS IS MORE

I'm reading the book "how steve (jobs) thinks"
the key of his view on "his" products: the more you leave out of it, the better the consumer can and feel comfy using them

The MMC-boys should read that book!!!!!

Tony: good point on double-clutch!!!!, I've decided already: manual, roll-bar etc (99?GT3-style)

So should Microsft!

Cheers,

You start this thread to discuss the car and make a point of saying it isn't a discussion about MMC but then you make the comment above!

As for quoting Apple as inspiration for MMC - let me lay my cards on the table: the founders of Apple made a great product but due to various factor - not the least poor business practice - ended up with a superior product that had less than 15% of the global market in their sector. when you drill down, you realise that the company has been unstable on more than one occasion and it has only been by clever development of new products that they have survived; the iMac (coloured laptop) was the first booster and then the iPod and iPhone have pushed them back into a strong position. Therefore, while their core product is still a marginal player within their industry, the side projects have 'made the bacon' and 'saved the farm'. With that in mind, do we want Morgan to start making lawnmowers, electric generators or BBQs, in an effort to see another 100-years or do we want them to continue to develop their product line and make beautiful hand crafted cars?

Just my 2-pence and while I have an iPhone, quite a few iPods and an iPad, I cannot fathom the blind loyalty that many Apple-lovers provide while they worship at the temple of Jobs and Wozniak.

Now, as per your suggestion, discussion the EvaGT: -

I would like the company to get the balance between sporting and GT right. A GT, imho, means you can mile-munch in it in comfort as well as having the necessary gadgets (proper climate control, sat nav, reasonable stereo, etc) but also feeling like you are sitting in something special. There needs to be a sense of occasion about the interior.

The sporting aspect is Morgans heritage, the car needs to soak up bumps (hence GT) but also perform when the road starts to bend. Magnetic dampers are probably a development too far for MMC; however, a well sorted suspension will provide for the above requirement.

Styling, I'd like it to be graceful and masculine - with a hint of Aero-line but really moving that design language forward.

I'm happy with the engine - BMW made strong engines and to be honest, the search for more and more power in an era where the government/police are talking about more and more average speed cameras, seems somewhat pointless. Sub 6-seconds to 60mph will be just fine for me. Now that Aero Racing is really coming into play, there is no reason why MMC cannot offer a performance pack, via Aero Racing, post purchase for those who want a higher state of tune. In fact, this would work better for me because after 12-months, it gives you the option to purchase it and feel like you've got a new car! What I would want to see is a large capacity fuel tank - there is nothing worse than a long distance tourer that needs to stop every 200-miles for a refill (I sold my E60 M5 for this reason).

That about covers it for now.

Back to the Temple of Apple

or golf carts???
I guess HD got away with those though...



Agree with that. GT = Gran Turismo - grand touring...
Having just driven a number of rather 'exotic' motors on track near Loughborough, the DB9, too big/heavy for much track use gave me the feeling I could just climb in at home and be in the Highlands a few hours later, feeling as fresh as if I'd just stepped out of the front door - that's true GT to me. Coming on the heels of a Scooby, 997, Nissan GTR it felt rather barge-like, but oh so comfortable. Gaillardo and Evo 9 (I think it was a 9) were also interesting, but for all round enjoyment on track the 997 was my favourite...

Cheers,