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That's very good news, thanks Ken. He's got you off the hook Dave!
I'll be starting this line again in another three years..........
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I might just take a look in the next 3 years............


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Hey Dave, I met a chap with a 3l monde yesterday. Looks like same engine as our roadster mk1 1. He claims Ford say to replace spark plugs at 60, 000!
Would you dare leave it that long?
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DaveW - I have a 2011 3 litre Roadster and need to get the oil changed in the gearbox. Today I removed the inspection hatch in the drivers footwell and there is absolutely no sign of any gearbox filler! I had heard that the inspection hatch does not always line up. Any ideas where it might be? The hatch looks exactly in the same place as yours. Is it the same gearbox as your earlier car. Will I need to take the entire centre consol out do you think to find it!! Any ideas?


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Andrew - you have a Ford gearbox. The S1 Roadster is Getrag.
I haven't inspected the S2 gearbox closely, and I would shine a torch down each side, or take a photo, and you should find the level plug! You should be able to do it without lifting the console. Double check the oil spec needed because it may not be the same as the Getrag.

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Dave thanks for your reply. Yes I will have to get under the car sometime with a torch and try and locate it. Searched from the access hole with torch and small extending mirror yesterday but nothing. The handbook says drivers footwell hatch but that might be an old note for S1. I was going to use Morris oil Lodexol FS75W90 as specified in manual. Probably have to send away for that oil. I will let you know what I find.


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Hi Dave - Had a look today down the passenger footwell and there are two hatches in the centre consul. Opened the most promising one and found a filler about 50mm further forward than the hatch. There is also a red plastic moulding on the side of the gear box near the access. It might just be possible to access the filler from underneath when the car is on a ramp then fill using a hose and filler funnel. Not the easiest thing but then again it is a Morgan.
As I am a newby to talkmorgan do you think its worth opening a new topic to see if anybody else might have had experience of a S2 gearbox? Thanks for your help. Your Miscellany article is always the first I read, hope you keep writing them.
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Andrew, yes - open up a new thread, Not many Roadster owners seem to do their own servicing but it's worth hanging it out there to see.

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So for reasons that would take too long to relate on here, I found myself planning a service this weekend. First job was to visit the Ford Dealer (only five miles down the road) to get an oil filter. This was the first stumbling block.Here you can see three filters. On the left is a Crosland 2193 which was fitted last June by a Mog specialist, but not a full Dealer. In the centre is what you get when you ask for a 3.0 V6 ST220 oil filter. On the right is the correct Ford part. Ford ref 1119421, also known as EFL600. Apparently this is a 'Zetec' filter so it appears that the same oil filter fits all three Ford engines.The price was £6.89 plus VAT. If you look closely you will see that the centre (incorrect) filter has a larger diameter female thread than the other two.



Imagine my delight this morning when I found that out....... Especially since it was £12.00 plus VAT.
The next picture shows the mounting boss, and you can see from this that the threaded adaptor is interchangeable - which is how they have been able to fit the smaller diameter filter. You can also see the two water hoses (bottom left) which form a primitive heat exchanger between oil & water, This is to allow the water to heat up the oil from cold, and presumably take some heat back when the oil is really hot.



Here it is fitted looking forward.



The sump plug is easy to access on the offside..... 15mm socket does the job.



And when you get it off, it looks like this.

Note that the 'integral' sealing washer is a 'rubber' type material and has resealed OK. I described this to the Ford parts man but the one he sold me is not the right one. Not my day really, but it doesn't really matter.



Choice of oil is tricky. Morgan recommend 5/40 fully synthetic, but Ford recommend 5/30 FS. Try as I might I couldn't locate a 5/40. They seem to be 0/40 (eg Mobil 1)so I've plumped for Mobil 1 5/30 this time. Of course, being a 4litre can I ended up buying two..........

Next time I might try their top spec oil for Diesels which does come in the right 5/40 grade.



Finally a word about antifreeze. I got some to have in stock, and it comes in 1 litre bottles. Ford part number is 1336799. It's £5.30 plus VAT and at 50/50 you'll need six litres.
It's Motorcraft Super Plus 2000 spec - WSS97B44D.



That's all for now folks........

P.S. When fitting the filter, fill it 3/4 with oil before screwing on. It reduces the time taken to get the pressure back up.


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