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by Morganmike - 21/09/26 07:54 PM
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My Mog is currently all in bits at RD Racing at the Paul Ricard Circuit, having three years of work done at one visit. I said to replace the rear tyre while they had all the back in bits (new brake shoes, late type hub, FAG bearings and super-lightweight steel sprocket), as the original was about 80% worn. The original Yokohama is not available in France. Most of the tyres in 175/65 x 15" seem to be cheapo Chinese/Korean rubbish and the rest fuel economy orientated. The only vaguely correct sounding tyre I can find is Dunlop SP Sport BlueResponse. Here is a link to these in the UK, although obviously I will be buying in France http://www.halfordsautocentres.com/tyres/dunlop/sp-sport-fastresponse/175-65-r15-84h. Has anyone tried this tyre at the back? With the Excelsior Comp H tyres on the front (massive improvement on Avons) and Yokohama at the back, it was beautifully balanced front/rear and just about neutral. I would be very sorry to lose that balance. Wilson
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I had one of the Dunlops, I found it fine in the summer in the dry, though not so good in the wet, when things cooled down a bit it needed a bit of care till warmed up and then in the winter it was hopeless, but in the South of France it should be fine!
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Thanks Calum. My Mog hibernates over the winter in France, all tucked up in its classic car storage, so hopefully it should be OK. I just hope it does not arrive with a Pintung 超級垃圾 (use google translate) tyre rather than the Dunlop.
I know what you mean about warming up. I had to collect my 1977 911 RSR last February, from the folk who had rebuilt its gearbox to take it to someone else to sort an electrical problem. The temperature was below freezing and I have 285/40 x 15" Pirelli Corsa Classic street legal race tyres on the back with hard D5 compound on them and even though they are new, virtually no tread sipes. It was like trying to use roller skates on an ice rink.
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Hi Wilson, i`m surprised there have been no replies to this question.
Several M3W owners on another thread have tried Nokian weatherproof tyres, seem to have very favourable reviews.
Other tyres worth considering may be, Avon ZT5, The original Khumo kh27 ecowing, also Michelin should be available in France. Falken have a tyre fitment in this size.
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The Nokian Weatherproof is good in snow with good aquaplane resistance & good wet road performance. It looses out a bit on dry road performance. Its strong points may be of less importance in southern France but more relevant in the north. I'm happy with my Nokian in Aberdeenshire.
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One is quite limited in this 175/65 x 15" size in France, as the majority of cars which use this size are either quite old or small economy cars. Therefore the majority of tyres are either cheap rubbish from India and China or economy orientated with compounds hard enough to knock nails in. Most owners in France seem to have gone for the Dunlop SP Sport. It seems extraordinary that Morgan made a correct choice with the original Yokohama but then blotted their copybook by opting for a motorcycle sidecar tyre for the front, whose sidewalls are not designed to take much if any side loading. The improvement with the Excelsior Comp H's was very noticeable.
15 inch tyres are getting to be a problem for older high performance cars with the tyre manufacturers making fewer and fewer sizes in Z rated tyres. For the back of my 1977 Porsche RSR, I cannot now buy any road tyres in the correct 275 or 265/45 x 15" size and have to use street legal race tyres, either Michelin TB15 or Pirelli P7 Corsa Classic. I and a number of RSR owners have asked the FIA if they will homologate 16" wheels at the rear, to allow us to use road tyres, which don't arrive with virtually no tread on them and last longer than 1500 miles. The FIA, what a surprise, is being less than helpful.
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One is quite limited in this 175/65 x 15" size in France, as the majority of cars which use this size are either quite old or small economy cars. Therefore the majority of tyres are either cheap rubbish from India and China or economy orientated with compounds hard enough to knock nails in. Most owners in France seem to have gone for the Dunlop SP Sport. It seems extraordinary that Morgan made a correct choice with the original Yokohama but then blotted their copybook by opting for a motorcycle sidecar tyre for the front, whose sidewalls are not designed to take much if any side loading. The improvement with the Excelsior Comp H's was very noticeable.
15 inch tyres are getting to be a problem for older high performance cars with the tyre manufacturers making fewer and fewer sizes in Z rated tyres. For the back of my 1977 Porsche RSR, I cannot now buy any road tyres in the correct 275 or 265/45 x 15" size and have to use street legal race tyres, either Michelin TB15 or Pirelli P7 Corsa Classic. I and a number of RSR owners have asked the FIA if they will homologate 16" wheels at the rear, to allow us to use road tyres, which don't arrive with virtually no tread on them and last longer than 1500 miles. The FIA, what a surprise, is being less than helpful.
Wilson Wilson, can't you just get one from one of the bigger European suppliers like Delticom (trading as mytyres.co.uk over here), or pneus-online.com (also Germany or Poland I think, despite the name)??? These folks deliver everywhere and then you should be able to get another Yoko. Or order it from the UK and have it shipped. Safer that risking upsetting the nice balance you already have surely?!
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I simply went with OEM tyres as fitted as std, they work well and last long time
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After an incident where the rear wheel hydro planned and we spun out leaving the freeway, we fitted a Pirelli that was highly rated for not hydro planning.
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After an incident where the rear wheel hydro planned and we spun out leaving the freeway, we fitted a Pirelli that was highly rated for not hydro planning. I had to brake downhill from, er, spirited motoring speed when I rounded a bend to find a pony and cart plodding in my lane. Rear ~locked, made a horrible squeal (woke the cart driver), but tracked straight. I wouldnt skimp on the rear tyre quality...
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