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Arwyn,
Just a thought but why don't you buy your mother in law and the elderly chap a good light rubber torch with a strap on it for their wrist. Pop it through the business it will only cost a couple of quid. They are sure to offer you your money back .






Originally Posted By Arwyn Williams
You've a point there Jack The Lad, they've recently replaced the sodium street light out side my mother in laws with some new LED thing. Its useless, it casts a beam of light on the about 4 ft in diameter and that's it

The old boy in the house next door is afraid to go out of his house because he can't see to safely use the pavement after dark because the lighting is so poor.

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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Originally Posted By auster
...texting by the pilot...


I'm surprised he could find a free hand to do that Kerry!
I will admit to not having seen the AAIB report.
It's easy enough to get disorientated up there, without distractions. Just thinking of the 70 something y.o. of a light aircraft that came down in a back garden 5 doors up the road.


Graham yes, flying a chopper generally precludes even scratching. When it comes to fixed wing you'd be surprised how much texting is done by pilots plus using the iPhone to call ahead for a taxi/room/sorry I'll be late home luv.. Actually our traffic issues are fewer than those on the ground but when there is an issue that's when you'd really rather be on the ground. pale


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Maybe its age, maybe its just me, but I am finding that concentrating on driving is as much as I can do, and fiddling with sat nav or even talking on the hands off phone can be distracting. This morning, on my way to play race officer for a yacht race, I was talking to my race officer predecessor about tide, weather and the best course, and I went through some lights just as they were changing form orange to red.

This is a first for telephone ditraction but not for satnav which is why I use blue tooth and an earpiece rather than a screen when on the bike. I've seen truck drivers texting whilst their rig waves about the lane and I've had the same happen to me when using the sat nav.

As I said at the beginning , this maybe just me but I do wonder. I'm not a pious H&s type - far from it. My inclinations are always to ignore rules. But is using a satnav with a screen whilst the car is moving safe? I doubt it.


Howard this is a big topic among pilots of light aircraft. The iPad (with navigation app) is now ubiquitous and as many planes don't have the panel space it is usually strapped to the knee. This means more time with head in the cockpit and not looking out for other traffic. The amount of information these devices can provided is fantastic but it is a big distraction from flying the plane and avoiding others. This is exactly the problem you are describing and yes it will lead to accidents. We need a device to whack us around the ears or provide an electric shock three seconds after our eyes shorten their focus from outside the cockpit to inside. Morgan cockpits included.

Some will recall the helicopter crashing into a crane in central London a couple of years ago. The results were tragic and according to the investigation, texting by the pilot, "was a mechanism that could increase stress and introduce rapid changes of plan." i.e. it's likely to have been a contributing factor.


I thought you guys had heads up devices to get round this issue. I've often wondered how you navigate. On a boat and on passage rather than just pottering about, I use a chain of waypoints and an instrument that gives me the course made good and the bearing to the waypoint. Match the two and eventually you hit the buoy that you used as a waypoint. laugh Enough sailors have done just that.

However, working that way lets you keep your eyes open because there are lots of things to hit at sea.

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Originally Posted By BobtheTrain
I always rely on the voice directions and don't look at the screen..


In the rare event I use a sat nav in the Morgan, this is exactly what I do too.


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Originally Posted By howard
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Maybe its age, maybe its just me, but I am finding that concentrating on driving is as much as I can do, and fiddling with sat nav or even talking on the hands off phone can be distracting. This morning, on my way to play race officer for a yacht race, I was talking to my race officer predecessor about tide, weather and the best course, and I went through some lights just as they were changing form orange to red.

This is a first for telephone ditraction but not for satnav which is why I use blue tooth and an earpiece rather than a screen when on the bike. I've seen truck drivers texting whilst their rig waves about the lane and I've had the same happen to me when using the sat nav.

As I said at the beginning , this maybe just me but I do wonder. I'm not a pious H&s type - far from it. My inclinations are always to ignore rules. But is using a satnav with a screen whilst the car is moving safe? I doubt it.


Howard this is a big topic among pilots of light aircraft. The iPad (with navigation app) is now ubiquitous and as many planes don't have the panel space it is usually strapped to the knee. This means more time with head in the cockpit and not looking out for other traffic. The amount of information these devices can provided is fantastic but it is a big distraction from flying the plane and avoiding others. This is exactly the problem you are describing and yes it will lead to accidents. We need a device to whack us around the ears or provide an electric shock three seconds after our eyes shorten their focus from outside the cockpit to inside. Morgan cockpits included.

Some will recall the helicopter crashing into a crane in central London a couple of years ago. The results were tragic and according to the investigation, texting by the pilot, "was a mechanism that could increase stress and introduce rapid changes of plan." i.e. it's likely to have been a contributing factor.


I thought you guys had heads up devices to get round this issue. I've often wondered how you navigate. On a boat and on passage rather than just pottering about, I use a chain of waypoints and an instrument that gives me the course made good and the bearing to the waypoint. Match the two and eventually you hit the buoy that you used as a waypoint. laugh Enough sailors have done just that.

However, working that way lets you keep your eyes open because there are lots of things to hit at sea.


Howard heads up devices are more likely to be found in military and sophisticated jets. The everyday light aircraft pilot (a bloke who might own an old Morgan) is probably using his iPad or iPhone. In the Auster and the Jodel (neither has an electrical system) I use a map, a compass and a watch. But I steal a glance at the iPad for reassurance especially if I'm worried about busting into airspace where I'm not meant to be. The Kitfox has a Garmin in the panel but I use it as a back-up to the iPad which is a back-up to the map, compass and watch. Draw a line, fly a heading, work out track and ground speed, adjust the heading and ETA. It's the same as sailing.


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There are some simple applications that re-arrange the screen on Android and iOS smartphones to make them work like HUD. You need to lay them flat and secure on top of the dash so that puts a morgan out!

If you look in the appstore and search for Heads up display you should find them. A few friends use them but I found it annoying.

Just a comment in case it helps.


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