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by Joske Vermeule, September 1
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Thanks everyone for your advice here, interesting background there too Simon, thank you.
Had a great chat with OZ 4/4 today too, feeling much more relaxed about it and have a plan of action - involves replacing the springs of course.
Many thanks for your time and advice OZ, really appreciated that 👍🏻🍾🏁 I missed the fact that you have decided to change the springs when I made my previous reply. I would caution against using 4 seater springs unless you really enjoy a hard ride  We use our car a lot for touring, about 12,000km a year, and we found the 5 leaf 2 seater springs gave a very hard and uncomfortable ride. I don't know for sure but I imagine that the 4 leaf 4 seater springs would be very hard for a 4/4 2 seater.
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Hence the comments to fit 4 seater 4 LEAF springs Peter
Graham (G4FUJ)
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Such a good thread this, very educational for me. Many thanks everyone.
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Hence the comments to fit 4 seater 4 LEAF springs Peter Sorry Graham. I don't get your point. Basically all I was saying is that I would have thought 4 seater springs (intended for a Plus 4 or Roadster 4 seater) would be overkill and give too harsh a ride on a 4/4 2 seater.
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Hence the comments to fit 4 seater 4 LEAF springs Peter Sorry Graham. I don't get your point. Basically all I was saying is that I would have thought 4 seater springs (intended for a Plus 4 or Roadster 4 seater) would be overkill and give too harsh a ride on a 4/4 2 seater. I went for 4 seater 4 leaf springs from Mulfab (as recommended by both DaveW and by Peter Mulberry). The car rides really well now both solo and fully laden. A local road that used to be taken at 45-50mph max can now be driven at well over 70 when no one is looking.
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The four seater springs make a huge difference and are not hard, relatively speaking.
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I have in my 2014 4/4 definitely too soft leaf springs. Adjustable Avo dampers help very well since three years, so that the springs do not puncture. I've had these leaf springs in the following link on my shelf for two years. But I'm not sure if the installation is worth the money. http://www.williamspartsshop.co.uk/williams-torque-resistant-leaf-springs---pair-1098-p.aspHas anyone had any experience with it? good or bad...Someone told me they could be too soft. In my case the Avo dampers have helped that the springs do not touch, but they cannot help that the cardan touches the car when I accelerate with HP plus tuned engine with full tank and with two occupants. Who has the leaf springs I have on the shelf (see the link) and can tell his experiences? Or should I trade them for these 4 seater 4 blade springs before I invest money in the installation?
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I have in my 2014 4/4 definitely too soft leaf springs. Adjustable Avo dampers help very well since three years, so that the springs do not puncture. I've had these leaf springs in the following link on my shelf for two years. But I'm not sure if the installation is worth the money. http://www.williamspartsshop.co.uk/williams-torque-resistant-leaf-springs---pair-1098-p.aspHas anyone had any experience with it? good or bad...Someone told me they could be too soft. In my case the Avo dampers have helped that the springs do not touch, but they cannot help that the cardan touches the car when I accelerate with HP plus tuned engine with full tank and with two occupants. Who has the leaf springs I have on the shelf (see the link) and can tell his experiences? Or should I trade them for these 4 seater 4 blade springs before I invest money in the installation? I guess I would trade them for springs I understand or at least somebody understands. Looks like these springs are meant for racing. Anti tramp. I have never tramped any Morgan not sure why I would want an Anti Tramp feature. Maybe with a Corvette engine it would be nice.
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This has certainly been my experience. A comfortable level ride with the four seater springs... The four seater springs make a huge difference and are not hard, relatively speaking.
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2011 4/4 Bespoke, 1981 Delorean, Auburn Boat Tail
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Button, tramp actually means that the leaf spring twists like an S shape when you accelerate. The 4/4 has no other aids like e.g. Anti Tramp bars. Only the stronger Trad Morgans have them. And as a result, my cardan shaft scrapes the underbody.
With the 4/4 you want to save any weight, therefore the idea for these asymmetric leaf springs. Especially if you have more than the normal power and above all torque.
My only concern is that these leaf springs do their job of anti tramp well, but that they might still be too soft overall.
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