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What make were the front tyres?... ...From my experience on the day and what the policeman said about that particular stretch of road there is something about the surface or geometry of the motorway there that produces more than its share of that kind of sudden aquaplaning. The "lump" of rain was extremely heavy and from the way it snapped I will hazard a guess that one front and the rear aquaplaned at pretty much exactly the same time while the other front stayed on the road surface but with lots of drag from the water depth so the whole car just pivoted around it. I hit the opposite lock stop pretty damn quickly but there was no purchase on the road at all and I might as well have not bothered. I'll also add that until the motorway when I was on the particularly wet bits I was frequently making gaps for myself to check for grip and keep the brakes dry so I had a fairly good picture of the grip available. Thanks - doesnt sound like it could have been avoided!
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Wow ... relieved to know you are ok, things you can replace, people you can't.  About Caramulo, you have Brooklands #33 ready and willing to go up the Hill under your command. It's not Ohlins and Blockleys equipped, and it surely isn't RedThree, but if RedThree is still on the mend come next September, it won't be the lack of a capable three wheeler that will keep you from having fun. Consider it, it would be a pleasure to have you here and an honour to have you driving/racing/whatever my own three wheeler at Caramulo. Cheers Mario
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Wow ... relieved to know you are ok, things you can replace, people you can't. About Caramulo, you have Brooklands #33 ready and willing to go up the Hill under your command. It's not Ohlins and Blockleys equipped, and it surely isn't RedThree, but if RedThree is still on the mend come next September, it won't be the lack of a capable three wheeler that will keep you from having fun. Consider it, it would be a pleasure to have you here and an honour to have you driving/racing/whatever my own three wheeler at Caramulo. Cheers Mario That is a really kind gesture, Mario. It sums up just what owning a Morgan is all about..
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Very sorry to hear of your accident. Hopefully this will be Red 3, chassis 4 and the Ohlins are all OK for life again. Main thing is that you are OK, but as you are I am sure you will be thinking about getting the M3W going again. Lets hope its not Euro 4 specification!!!!!
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Glad to hear you are unscathed.
We had a similar incident in a heavy rain in Oregon 2 years ago. My first indication was the engine revving up similar to a slipping clutch. This had to be the rear tire aqua-planing on standing water. The rear end snapped left, I corrected and it went right and we were gone.
As I think back on it, there were so many opportunities to die. We barely missed a large wheeled road sign, slid down a grassy slope of wet grass and wound up about 200 feet off the road. We next to a fence and in a grove of pine trees. The car was unscathed, not a single scratch although I still find stalks of grass in odd places.
My wife and I sat there dumbfounded for at least a minute trying to grasp what had just happened. We no longer drive in wet weather figuring that you only get one free pass with this sort of thing. As Calum said, once one of these little rigs gets away, you are just a passenger.
Be careful out there!
Rolsmith, What brand of tires you had on and can you remember how much profile depth was left ? Any idea about your speed at the moment ?
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Very glad you are ok
I had something similar in my Lotus Europa once it was just like hitting sheet ice
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Wow ... relieved to know you are ok, things you can replace, people you can't. About Caramulo, you have Brooklands #33 ready and willing to go up the Hill under your command. It's not Ohlins and Blockleys equipped, and it surely isn't RedThree, but if RedThree is still on the mend come next September, it won't be the lack of a capable three wheeler that will keep you from having fun. Consider it, it would be a pleasure to have you here and an honour to have you driving/racing/whatever my own three wheeler at Caramulo. Cheers Mario That is a really kind gesture, Mario. It sums up just what owning a Morgan is all about.. +1 on that. I've replied to Mario by email and may well take up his offer but I need to get everything else in motion first and see how it is going. I really appreciate the concern from everyone and can assure you all that the most painful part of me this morning was a very mild hangover.
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Cullum that looks like a close call. Glad to hear you walked safety.
Having looked over the years at the pictures of your car in the hills in the snow I would hate to have thought would have happened if it had been one of usfair weather drivers behind the wheel.
Hope you get it back soon.
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Wow ... relieved to know you are ok, things you can replace, people you can't. About Caramulo, you have Brooklands #33 ready and willing to go up the Hill under your command. It's not Ohlins and Blockleys equipped, and it surely isn't RedThree, but if RedThree is still on the mend come next September, it won't be the lack of a capable three wheeler that will keep you from having fun. Consider it, it would be a pleasure to have you here and an honour to have you driving/racing/whatever my own three wheeler at Caramulo. Cheers Mario A very generous offer...
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