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As I understand it the MMC 5L rear suspension dispenses with the need for anti-tramp bars and the Panhard rod is built into the new geometry.

The sump clearance is better on the 3.7 Cyclobe engined cars , but it is still not great. It all depends on the type of roads you drive on. In Europe we are beset with traffic calming measures , speed bumps , sleeping policemen etc so it has become an essential mod . If you don't encounter these then it may be OK for you. It is always something you can fit later if you feel the need.

Thanks for confirmation and comments

I guess the heat control drives an electric valve in the heater feed.

Thanks for all input, which has been very helpful.

I will hold off on the king pin replacement, skip for now remote greasing, stick with the stock oil pan and assume that the 2018 roadster has a control that allows you to shut off coolant flow into the cab heater.

I am inclined to go with the Wolf "skid plate" as I see many who have commented favorably (although there are contrary views that this device may cause serious problems in the case of a really hard hit: http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/roadsterantitrampissue.html#SUMPS). I have a 2007 Aero 8 and smashed one oil pan already and am inclined to have whatever extra protection is available, even though I realize that if you really hit something hard, it could be a mess. Generally, on roads that I encounter here in the U.S. the main problem is not something sticking up in the middle of the road to accommodate a gate closing, but simple speed bumps, and these are not the kind of things that slam you to a stop, just scrape and make a scary noise. I think an aluminum plate would help in this situation.

I think that I will have the exhaust manifold ceramic coated, as I have done this with very good results in terms of lowering engine bay heat on several cars that I have built. I will wait on the radiator although I fear that the 2018 roadster still shares the same plastic tank radiator used on the less powerful traditional models. It apparently is not that hard to change out later and easily available in a higher capacity aluminum version from Mulfab. The U.S. in the mid=Atlantic gets hot and stays hot in the summertime and overheating is a common problem in specialty or older cars. I have several cars that are repeat offenders. If any of you have had overheating issues on the new roadster, I would appreciate hearing about it, as there is still time for me to order a big aluminum radiator from Mulfab and get it in before the engine.
Here is the spec for my order, if any of you have comments or suggestions although I think that it will shortly be too late to change. It is going to be black, with black interior and black wheels and the black pack and the flat black racing numbers circle on the cowl (as in the U.S. cowl, the sheet metal just in front of the windshield, not the nose cone)==I guess the black is sorta sinister,but I haven't had a black car in a long time, and I am an old man with white hair and a white beard so no one will feel threatened.

DESTINATION COUNTRY USA
GEARBOX MANUAL
LHD OR RHD LHD
MODEL MP V6
02 WHEELS
PAINTED WHEEL NEXA CODE BLACK WIRES
WHEEL QTY 5
WHEELS TRAD MASTER 6.5IN X 15IN BLACK WIRE
03 CHASSIS
5 LINK SUSPENSION TRAD 5 LINK SUSPENSION
ADJUSTABLE SHOCKS ADJ PLATFORM FRT
AIRCON AIRCON SYSTEM FITTED
BRAKE REACTION BARS BRAKE REACTION FITTED
PANHARD ROD PANHARD ROD KIT FITTED
POWERSTEERING POWERSTEERING SYSTEM FIT
04 PAINT
BONNET OPTIONS BONNET FULL LOUVRES
PAINT OPTION COLOUR - SINGLE
PAINT PROTECTION FILM PPF FITTED
PAINT TONE 1 BODY NEXA 74NXB SPORTS BLACK
PAINT TONE 1 FINISH B T1 SPORTS BLACK
PAINT TONE 2 FINISH W SINGLE COLOUR VEHICLE
PAINT TONE 2 WINGS NEXA 74NXB SPORTS BLACK
SPRAYED CAR FORM PAINTED CAR FORM INC
ALL CARPET COLOURS BLACK CARPET
ALL CARPET WELTING WELTING AS MAIN LEATHER
ALL LEATHER COLOUR MAIN XT BLACK
ALL LEATHER COLOUR PIP PIPING XT GUNMETAL
DOOR CHECK STRAPS DOOR CHECK SS FITTED
DOOR POCKET CONT COLOUR CONTRST AS MAIN LEATHER
DOOR POCKETS DOOR POCKETS FITTED
LEATHER TRIM DETAILS LEATHER TRIM DETAILS INC
RUBBER FLOOR MATS RUBBER FLOOR MATS INC
STITCHING MATCH MAIN LEATHER
SUNVISORS SUNVISORS FITTED MC
06 SEAT
EMBROIDERY STITCH COLOUR MATCH LEATHER COLOUR
HEADRESTS EMBROIDERED HEADREST STANDARD
SEATS SPORTS RECLINER SEATS
SEATS HEATED HEATED SEATS INC
07 DASH
DASH CLOCK DASH CLOCK FITTED
DASH START BUTTON START BUTTON INCLUDED
DASH TYPE TRAD LEATHER DASH
DASHBOARD NEXA COLOUR MAIN LEATHER COLOUR
FOOTWELL LIGHTING FOOTWELL LIGHTING INC
ICE SYSTEMS SPEAKERS CD AND AERIAL
SPEEDO MPH
08 BRIGHTWORK
APILLARS BLACK APILLARS
BLACK PACK BLACK PACK FITTED
CHASSIS RAIL COVERS CHASSIS RAIL COVERS FIT
DOOR HANDLES DOOR HANDLES FITTED
FRONT BRIGHTWORK FRONT OVERRIDER
GRILLE MESH BLACK GRILLE MESH
REAR BRIGHTWORK REAR OVERRIDER
STONE GUARD BLACK STONE GUARD
TREAD RUBBERS 4
09 WEATHER GEAR
HOOD COVER MOHAIR BLACK HOOD COVER
HOOD MATERIAL OPTIONS MOHAIR BLACK HOOD
HOOD PACK HOOD TONNEAU PACK MOHAIR
HOOD PIPING HOOD PIPING AS HOOD
HOOD TYPE 20 SEC HOOD
SIDESCREEN BAG SIDESCREEN BAG AS HOOD
TONNEAU AS HOOD MATERIAL TONNEAU
WING BEADING WB BLACK STANDARD
10 OPTIONS
BATTERY CONDITIONER BATTERY COND INC
PHOTO BB PHOTOGRAPHIC RECORD INC
UNION JACK BADGES UNION JACK BADGES BLK
11 AERO RACING
AR DOOR MIRRORS ROUND CHROME MIRRORS
AR INTERIOR MIRROR CHROME MIRROR
AR LUGGAGE AR LUGGAGE BLACK
AR LUGGAGE RACKS RACK WITH SSCREEN OVERR
AR LUGGAGE STRAPS AR LUGGAGE STRAPS BLACK
AR SIDESCREENS SIDESCREENS FITTED
AR TRAD EXHAUSTS V6 REAR EXIT COMPLETE
AR WHEEL SPINNERS 2 EARED SPINNERS
I have added a 13 inch steering wheel and double buckle strap from Williams and am considering their roll bar.
Best, RKell

Wow, what a car!
Congratulations!
Regatds,
Bert

Looking forward to photos when you have them.

Just to put your mind at ease, here is a photo of the underside of a 3.7 Roadster. Taken from the front looking rearwards, you can see just how flat and tucked away the sump is on the 3.7 cars. The lowest point of the car is the dip of the chassis cross member.

Wolf & Brands Hatch Morgan do a 'skid' plate that bolts to this cross member to enable the dip to be ramped at an angle to avoid hitting at a vertical angle, but this comes at a price of a few millimetres loss of overall clearance, so it's a swings & roundabout type of decision.

Hope this helps.

Similar spec to mine. Asked a knowledgable MMC guy when car last seen in finishing bay, what improvements he suggested for the front suspension. His answer was AVO adjustable shocks. Having heard comments from others re nodding front I'll probably go with them but want to feel the benefit over standard ones first.

Saw no point in battery conditioner, I have more than one charger and why pay MMC prices. Ditto start button as you still have to use key first. A nice retro addition I guess but more meaningful on the three wheeler with its guarded button.

Here's hoping both our cars live up to expectations

rkell, looking at your build spec & in particular this..

ADJUSTABLE SHOCKS ADJ PLATFORM FRT

You have specified in 'MMC talk' the SSL (suplex) front end

Richard, the knob just operates a simple pull/push cable, but at least there's no eletrickery to malfunction

Ah thanks. That would explain why the tiny knob was so stiff