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In about a month I am due a service and MOT on my 2006 Plus 4.Just about 27000 miles
Can some one give me a view on the typical cost to replace Pins and Bushes (Stainless Pins) Pins and Bushes (Hard Chrome Pins)
I want to have an advance idea if "I get the call" saying they need to be done of a value for money quote. Regards
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Why not give your nearest dealer a call and get it direct from the horses mouth, that way you will have the exact pricing for each job without the guesswork or surprises - they don't bite you know  .
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As Richard said but in my opinion, don't even consider replacing with stainless steel. Go straight for the hard chrome king pins.
There's loads on here about the reasoning and considering the overall cost including labour the extra king pin cost is relatively small and will be worth every penny.
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It's also worth considering Mulfab steering bearings at the same time.
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As Richard said but in my opinion, don't even consider replacing with stainless steel. Go straight for the hard chrome king pins.
There's loads on here about the reasoning and considering the overall cost including labour the extra king pin cost is relatively small and will be worth every penny.
What the man said. A good Morgan dealer should be able to give you a firm quote, it's a straightforward job.
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You're not so far from Cain - Wolf Performance - who can and will replace KPs (hard chrome) and bushes. Suggest you contact him first.
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OK silly question time, alas the Morgan Dealer in Dubai is no more, previously ive done all work on my Roadster myself, i dont have the proper tools or knowledge to replace the king pins myself, so my question is how do i know if the king pins are worn. I have been fastidious to the point of obsession in terms of greasing my king pins. My Roadster has done 26000 km
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Apologies to Dubai Morgan, apparently their workshop is still carrying out warranty and basic servicing on Morgans, however they appear not to have done any Kingpin changes, also they are not marketing or selling new Morgans.
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OK silly question time, alas the Morgan Dealer in Dubai is no more, previously ive done all work on my Roadster myself, i dont have the proper tools or knowledge to replace the king pins myself, so my question is how do i know if the king pins are worn. I have been fastidious to the point of obsession in terms of greasing my king pins. My Roadster has done 26000 km Steve The OEM king pins will last a long time if you keep up a regular greasing regime. My first set of stainless pins went 16 years and 55,000 miles. There was no detectable wear when we did change them for hard chrome ones. Yours should be good for many kms yet. The basic check is to jack up the car and look for play at the rim of the wheel in the plane of the king pin (ie almost vertical). Some slight play is acceptable and is probably the wheel bearing rather than the pins and bushes. If you do detect play try gripping the wheel at the 3 o'clock/9 o'clock position and see if it is the same, as this will be entirely due to the wheel bearing. Go back and compare the two, if there is significantly more in the vertical plane then you probably have some pin/bush wear. It is almost always the lower bush that wears first , due to its exposure to road grit/salt etc (in your case sand?) mixing with the grease and forming a nice grinding paste. This can be improved by fitting a "cover" over the rebound spring, as supplied DaveW's missus or make your own version up from local materials. It is not a difficult job, and if you have basic workshop tools and a good jack most work can be done by a home mechanic. The exception to this is the fitment and reaming of the new bushes to the stub axles. Here you need a hydraulic press to remove the old bushes and replace with new. Then the 2 bushes need to be reamed so they are perfectly in line. Ask around some of the small engineering workshops in town , I am sure someone should have the equipment you need and an operator with enough skill to use it properly.
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OK silly question time, alas the Morgan Dealer in Dubai is no more, previously ive done all work on my Roadster myself, i dont have the proper tools or knowledge to replace the king pins myself, so my question is how do i know if the king pins are worn. I have been fastidious to the point of obsession in terms of greasing my king pins. My Roadster has done 26000 km More or less any garage that is used to working on old cars will have the equipment to be able to do this job, you just need a press and a reamer along with the normal range of mechanics tools. There's a reasonable explanation of the process on GoMog which any competent mechanic would be able to follow.
Tim H. 1986 4/4 VVTi Sport, 2002 LR Defender, 2022 Mini Cooper SE
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