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Hehe, very good.
Trouble is, for me to use public transport for the nominally 10.5 mile commute, it will take an hour and quarter by bus, never mind the walking at each end or standing around waiting for a bus, where I can do the trip driveway to car park (and vice versa) in just under 20 minutes...
Cheers,
Graham (G4FUJ)
Sold L44FOR 4/4 Giallo Fly
'11 MINI Countryman Cooper D All4
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But no exercise............
It was well dodgy this morning - couldn't see the rails.
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No, no exercise - that's a lunchtime stroll (if I haven't dozed off...  ). Cheers,
Graham (G4FUJ)
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So my questions now are:-
1. Should I really go to a specialist tuner to get the best out of these ?
2. Are they really competition parts with the associated fragility of use/constant tuning ?
3. Should I just go on a diet to get similar performance upgrade ?
Answers to 1 and 2 welcomed
Q1 - This level of job is not something I would recommend you attempt at home. You will get the most out of the kit if you go somewhere that has experience of this transplant, unfortunately in many cases they are not Morgan experienced... so you will have to be exact in your quality installation requirements and as a job it may not suit many race prep companies as they are about function over form. Look for people Jenvey or Webcon recommend as installers ideally those who have a rolling road as your ignition and fueling will need to be re-mapped. You will need to budget for: 2 x throttle bodies (Jenvey Type that require no manifold) Engineering work on the Head & Intake to port match 4 x Injectors 1 x Fuel Rail 1 x ECU possibly (may need to piggy back the stock ECU for fuel control) 4 x Air Horn's 1 x Air Box + Cone Filter 100mm Ducting (pipe) 100mm Funnel/Opening ~12 Hrs labor 2-3Hrs on the rolling road Q2 - No, should be quite easy to use, once set-up Q3 - Now this is an interesting one, which I've thought about a lot before and it goes like this..... so you spend £1 on food.. you then spend £5 on purchasing parts to make your car lighter by the amount you added to yourself for £1... you then decide to do something about the extra you put on yourself.. having already spent £6 you end up spending £10 to join a gym you never go to and end up spending £16 in total... still heavier in all places but the wallet!!?? But inevitably, in the power to weight or Torque to weight game, removing weight given the weight of the Morgan will pay dividends. Could I also add that there comes a time ( for me it's the very first thing but I know I might be in a minority) where you need to remember that an engine is developed from the bottom up. there should be a fair margin for devewlopment but don't neglect to think about thing such as carank, flywheel, rods and pitons and drive belts. Boring, I know, but when your hioghluy developed head, cams etc go band becuase the bootom end isn't strong enough, it can be an expensive reminder! Cheers, G PS I agree with about 98% of what ceral says but I'm really not a fan of piggy back chips eg Bluefin
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I was thinking a completely seperate fuel control ecu.. omex or mbe
Not blufin type
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I was thinking a completely seperate fuel control ecu.. omex or mbe
Not blufin type Point taken ( I must admit I didn't think you'd be advocating the Bluefin approach)  Cheers Andrew, G PS Just been doing a it of very amateur CAD work and reckon that with a Supersports -type cowl fitted to rear of the nearside of my 4/4 bonnet, I might be able to shorten my induction pipe and crerate good high pressure area. I've also been looking at the E30 throttle body g
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Just had a more detailed look at some of the engine tuners and it appears SBD and Raceline use Jenvey throttle bodies as part of their kits on Duratec.
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Just had a more detailed look at some of the engine tuners and it appears SBD and Raceline use Jenvey throttle bodies as part of their kits on Duratec. Indeed.. although SBD have 2 different versions... only one has in-house optimised manifold.. the others are the stock Jenvey units. (still good though for 99% of applications).
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Just had a look at these guys as well. They recommend OMEX... http://www.vulcanengines.com/
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