I accept that some don't consider themselves "over wealthy" but, in fact, we (Morgan owners) are indeed very much more wealthy than average.
We live in a house that is £25,000 above the national average and have an income of about £30,000 p/a. I don't consider that to be "very much more wealthy than average".
Don’t get me wrong Tim....I’m very concerned about the future of this planet, especially now that I have seven grandchildren 🙄😳. I would just like a bit more honesty and openness from Government, manufacturers etc. We are all in this together.
Personally I am getting quite excited at the development of EVs and battery technology.
Jays Former Morgan owner. Gone but hopefully not forgotten!
I accept that some don't consider themselves "over wealthy" but, in fact, we (Morgan owners) are indeed very much more wealthy than average.
We live in a house that is £25,000 above the national average and have an income of about £30,000 p/a. I don't consider that to be "very much more wealthy than average".
Average Morgan owners are very much more wealthy than average.
I accept that some don't consider themselves "over wealthy" but, in fact, we (Morgan owners) are indeed very much more wealthy than average.
We live in a house that is £25,000 above the national average and have an income of about £30,000 p/a. I don't consider that to be "very much more wealthy than average".
Average Morgan owners are very much more wealthy than average.
I agree with that statement. Thank goodness I'm not average!
I'm on my second Tesla. 20 months old, clicked over 60,000 miles today on this one, did 53,000 miles on the first one.
Drove to Edinburgh from Ludlow yesterday, drove back this evening. No range/charging issues.
Drove to Geneva, no range/charging issues. Drove to Bergen with the kids for a week long break. No range or charging issues.
The first one for me was free if I allow for the petrol costs saved. The second one will have some cost as the tax break lower but probably not going to be too much.
The Kona looks like a nice option in the £20-£35k range
Ludlow to Edinbugh is 312 miles, 624 there and back. Did you recharge in Edinburgh, if so how.
Is there a single company developing all the battery recycling etc. stuff mentioned above, is there a single one not funded by enormous government grants....I include all solar panel deals as well.
Yes, they all are. No-one is getting any subsidies from Government, it's the other way round. The Feed-in Tariff is designed to persuade consumers to install micro generation and get a subsidy for going it. The Suppliers have to pay around £40/MWh to the Generator for the power they generate, but the wholesale price of Electricity at the moment is only about £30/MWh, so it's the suppliers who are suffering.
It's true that consumers have to pay the 'green tariff' as part of their bills, it's all about reducing carbon output, and for an average family with an electricity bill of around £1200 a year, it's around £130.
They can offset this by installing micro generation and energy conservation measures, it costs around £50 to have your house checked over by a professional who will then advise on the most appropriate measures to reduce your bills. Purchasing the necessary insulation, solar panels, triple glazing or whatever can then be funded either by the consumer themselves, or through the 'Green Deal' arrangement that is funded by the Supply companies. If you can't afford to install high-grade insulation, for example, you can get your supplier to pay for it and then pay it off at very low interest rates through your electricity bill.
Average overall savings that can usually be achieved by getting it from a D average to a B ratings are int he region of £300 or so a year, so there's plenty of scope for people to save more than their green tariff costs.
As for people with solar panels, storage batteries, and EVs there is considerable scope for them to monetise their investment by participating in VPP arrangements, which are being offered by loads of companies. This enables them to sell the power they have generated and stored at times when the spot price is very high. If they can't afford the investment themselves there are plenty of companies able to help them in return for a cut of the profits.
So where does the government's 557 million in grants go then? That's the figure they announced a year ago.
If you drive into London then just look on the road next to you. Almost all cars are single occupancy. If there was a way of improving mpg then optimising this would be the biggest of all.
There is. Its called a bus. But if you dont want to travel with people you dont know, then why should you have to do so?
It really does look like Hyundai are making a very good battery.
Seems to out perform the Tesla, I know people will have to alter the way they do things if you actually bother to watch https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG1QcV31eoSaX4rE8avQL4A videos they aren't in all cars cases as easy to live with others, and the charging infrastructure in some countries is vast compared what we have in place in the UK, just as well there hasn't been a huge uptake yet.
I would like an eV and it's great that people like this take their time to trial lots on differing makes, it can save people making an expensive mistake.
My area on Zap Map is a little spartan.
The good thing with an eV is that you can charge from home if you can afford it you can even have faster chargers put in.
But it's the real world situations like the following, peoples attitudes need to change.
The reviewer himself has problems he had 80% charge and needs to charge up, if I had 80% of a fuel take it wouldn't even enter my mind.
Mark - No Longer driving Archie the Old English Sheep Mog........... 2010 Roadster 3.0 V6 (S3)
So where does the government's 557 million in grants go then? That's the figure they announced a year ago.
Generation for the industry, Energy efficiency for domestic customers (eg Warm Home Discount).
The Feed in Tariff is not a Government subsidy, it is mandatory for large suppliers to offer it and it in theory is self-financing - although currently the Suppliers are losing large amounts of money on it.
AFAIK battery storage is considered part of the energy market, and that is expected to be self-financing. The electricity infrastructure (both physical and management) of the UK was designed around the fact that electricity can be cheaply transmitted but not stored, so the National Grid was built as a high voltage transmission network and a bunch of low (240V) distribution networks.
Power Stations were all connected directly to the transmission network and the National Grid Company set up the Balancing Mechanism to ensure that the amount of power being generated and consumed exactly balances out at all times. Power stations were massively expensive and most of the old stock was built back in the days of the CEGB - which actually did a bloody good job of ensuring reliable, relatively inexpensive electricity supply.
Now we have a critical need to decarbonise the electricity system, and renewables are a key part of doing this (along with nuclear). But we also have a privatised market, the government can no longer decide to spend money itself, private equity has to be used. The grants go mainly to building big renewables projects like offshore wind farms, they are needed to get investors to commit money and get involved.
The huge new advantage that we now have is that commercial scale battery storage is now available. This means that for the first time we can store excess energy generated when we don't need it - wind is a perfect example of this. If it was windy on a mild summer's night, we couldn't do anything with the power so had to feather the turbine blades. Now we can bung all that free power into batteries and store it for when we do need it. It also enables loads of micro-generators to have their kit connected at distribution network level without running into oversupply problems: without a battery array you have to have a gizmo to prevent your solar panels dumping excess power into the DN if it's not needed.
So now we have the technology that enables battery owners to participate directly in the energy market, to make money from their generation capabilities (most commonly solar in domestic settings), and there's a lot of money to be made - hence all the companies offering VPP deals. That's why the government doesn't have any need to subsidise the battery industry.
Tim H. 1986 4/4 VVTi Sport, 2002 LR Defender, 2022 Mini Cooper SE
