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ha, cheers happy3 englandwave

they ditched (or he retired) the guy directing the MINI-design department,
hopefully the stop making those inflated MINI's and give us back beautifully designed once,
my '91 cooper and '05 MINI Cooper S were nice,
the current range looks like it has a big layer of fat on the original designs
AND that countryman, for me a YETI everytime!!!!!!!!!!!
(even if they would win MonteCarlo)


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I like it hide

But then my ideal everyday car nowadays would be a Smart cabriolet fourtwo four wheel drive (would that make it a fourxfour?) on a raised chassis with a Kevlar cell/shell and a Hans system.

Would be perfect for my commute and help stop all this global warming smile


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You want to help stop global warming? Don't buy a new car... Exhaust emissions are only around 5% of the total environmental cost of a vehicle.

Anyway, how would you get in and out of a Smart?? rofl
Hated the only one I ever drove...

Now, a real Mini Cooper or S (I'd probably have the same ingress/egress problems) is a different kettle of fish thumbs

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and then there's the research which shows that methane from cows world wide contributes far more than motorised transport. Meabh,

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and of course the contribution that us humans make .....phutttttttttttt


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I'm sorry but IMO the R56 MINI is a much more robust car and nicer ownership proposition. The Cooper S for me is much superior to the previous supercharged effort.

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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Now, a real Mini Cooper or S (I'd probably have the same ingress/egress problems) is a different kettle of fish thumbs

Cheers,

Yes, esepecially the much missed and very underrated 1071 'S'

IMHO a better engine than the 1275- even in the latter's last, thick wall block version

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Absolutely G!
That 1071 was the DBs thumbs

Ungulates Meabh - I believe sheep may actually be worse than cows - all that cud chewing and part regurgitation. Terrible for methane and other gases, far worse than the after end! Save the planet - kill a cow, sheep, any grass muncher! soapbox

Peter (Ruby) might be able to answer this one - have you ever smelled a 'roo's breath? No wonder the planet is suffering!! laugh2

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The 'global warming' comment was Tongue firmly in cheek doh

As for ingress and egress my fine lithe figure was fine in a Smart? Much easier than a Morgan!

Not really a big fan of Smarts per se but there does come a stage where £400 tax and £105 to fill up starts 'smarting', if you'll excuse the pun, and being one up 95% of the time is a tad wasteful.

If there was a safe two seated, 4WD, high seating position convertible, I'd buy one immediately! First one to mention that stupid horrible Suzuki thing gets shot BTW. grin2


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I've owned the first BMW Mini and the second version; both were Cooper S models.

The first version was a lot of fun to drive but the interior rattled terribly (there was a known fault with the frame holding the dash and Mini would fix cars under warranty but even then, it still sounded like a party of mice having a disco under the dash). The engine was great if you kept the RPMs up and pushed it hard; however, the torque steer wasn't enjoyable and made getting off the line smoothly a chore.

The second incarnation is a much better built car - the interior is BMW quality and feels like a larger car. There are zero rattles and while it has lost some of the quirkiness of the original car, it is a nicer place to be.

The engine is a massive improvement and while the car drives like a larger one, it still handles very well.

If I had to choose one, it would be the latest version.

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