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by Morganmike - 21/09/26 07:54 PM
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Can you point me in the direction of some of these companies, please? Thanks.
Who is your current supplier, Bob? If they don't offer anything then I think Ovo are doing something for domestic customers. I work on the commercial side so all the current schemes I'm aware of (EDF, Ecotricity, LimeJump) are working with generators above the FiT limit, and if you get the FiT contribution currently you are much better sticking with that as the current price differential between the FiT Tariff and the wholesale price means you are already being paid far more than your electricity is worth on the market. Domestic customers need to work in aggregation with loads of others to get their electricity output up to a tradeable amount, you can't buy and sell individual KWh on the market. Companies are starting to set these arrangements up but in these early days it's a great deal easier to do it with companies who can do things like covering their factory roofs with solar panels. Tim, I would be interested in your view on the EDF Powervault 3 package with Grid Services which gives an 8kw battery installation for £4999?
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Tim, I would be interested in your view on the EDF Powervault 3 package with Grid Services which gives an 8kw battery installation for £4999?
Having worked with them for 12 years, I can't be expected to be able to provide a completely dispassionate view about EDF, but I know they have a great team of people working on their Energy Solutions product set, and see the whole EV/Battery/Low Carbon generation sector as absolutely central to their business vision. They are investing very significantly. Having said that, it's also the case that the see themselves as 'Leading edge rather than bleeding edge' so you won't see the real snazzy innovations that some of the smaller companies like Ovo are already getting into - but on the other hand if EDF offers something you can usually depend on it being a solid and workable solution. The other thing that sets EDF apart from all the competition is their abilities in forecasting future demand, consumption and the state of the energy market - so ultimately if they trade your energy for you you will end up getting a better deal in the long run. As for Powervault, it's not EDF technology but is licensed and is available from other providers too. There are two types available - Powervault3 and Powervault3eco. Its the second one that uses end of life EV batteryies and is cheaper, but is only guaranteed for 3 years. The first uses new Lithium-Polymer cells and is guaranteed for 10 years. More expensive, but at the moment I think that's the one I would go for. But as they say, you pays your money and you takes your choice.
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I wish. We have a 1990 3 bed bungalow with decent insulation and the annual cost is north of £2k with the thermostat set at 19.5C. And a log burner used a bit.
So you already have the Morgan of houses then ? no mention of leaks so maybe not?  Leaks like a seive. Very MMC albeit its energy / heat that it leaks not water. I really dont understand it. The standard of wall insulation is good though the windows are the old narrow gap double glazing. Roof insulation is good as well so where is it all going?
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Do you have concrete floors ? They can be a large heat sink.
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I really dont understand it. The standard of wall insulation is good though the windows are the old narrow gap double glazing. Roof insulation is good as well so where is it all going?
You can get an inspection and an energy performance certificate for around £50, they will tell you the best ways to decrease your energy consumption
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I would say that 200 miles is my realistic range, perhaps 220 in warm weather and low wind and 175-180 in cold winter.
I think for the UK market that range is plenty. It is 3 hours of motorway driving and 4-4.5 hours of country road driving, surely plenty enough to want to have a break for 10-20 minutes or perhaps a lunch stop for 45-60 minutes.
In practical day to day terms I agree. But for 7 years I had a Volvo S60 LPG car with a range of 200 miles and the need, as with an EV, to go to a specific location to refill rather than any old supermarket. Only difference is that the LPG refill was as quick as a petrol one. I found this range restriction really irritating. Yes I dont actually need the 600 mile range of my current diesel but its real handy to have it. And I dont want to have to hang around a charging point for an hour, or even more than a few minutes. Life is too short to spend it in filling stations So yes I would like an electric car if only for the silent running. But 200 miles range and hour long recharges dont do it for me.
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Have you got room thermostats on most of the radiators?
Also, you say the main thermostat is set to 19.5 but the location of that stat can make a huge difference, as can others turning it up when you're not looking.
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Howard, are your walls constructed with dob and dab plasterboard but unsealed at ceiling and skirting height?
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We have run hybrids for over 7 years now at work, which have all been extremely reliable cars. EV is the next stage whether most of us want it or not. Range is still an issue for the majority of staff but a few can manage on the real world range of 200 miles. Tesla are lending us a Model X next week for a couple days and looking forward to having some fun in it. As Shooter has stated before stopping every 3 hours for 1 hourish is pretty normal. I think it's mainly just a change of driving habits that needs to addressed. The only other downside is Essex appears to have no supercharging points yet...
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