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What size Skyhook holds it up there?


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Originally Posted By sospan
What size Skyhook holds it up there?


Same width as a bubble for a spirit level.


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I can't help feeling that history is repeatedly repeating itself. We were pushed to buy diesel, use plastic to wrap food for hygiene and storage, take vitamin supplements - this list is long - only to be told later that it was detrimental to health or the environment. I am amazed at the number of cells in the floor pan of a Tesla. I suppose there will be a well thought out end of life plan for the disposal of these, with their heavy metals etc or do we just ship them to the third world. Perhaps the push for ev's is deflecting from cleaning up exhaust gases from ice vehicles.


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Never underestimate the power of the lobbyists over politicians......


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Howard, are your walls constructed with dob and dab plasterboard but unsealed at ceiling and skirting height?


Dont really know but from looking in the built in garage, I reckon they will be thermalite blocks with stuck on insulation. All floors etc are sealed. The bungalow is a one off built by a surveyor for himself and using his subbies from work. Judging by the man and by all the fittings, it wasnt done on the cheap.

My guess is that the problem is a/ bungalow b/ size c/ bay windows with buttresses d/ narrow double glazing in mahogany frames


Howard, at work we have thermal imaging done in the latter stages of construction (& sometimes air leakage testing) it can be surprising where it shows up faults


Would be interesting to apply here though I can get some idea from observation ( and a physics degree 50 years ago). Snow doesnt melt on the roofs at all quick but if I use an IR thermomeneter inside the house there is a marked tem[perature decline between the wall surface and the bay windows - like 6C. Problem is that the bays were built supported by flying butresses so the underside is likely no more than a couple of layers of 10mm ply with maybe an inch of grp insulation inbetween. And then there are narrow glazed windows that stream with condensation first thing after a cold night. Plus draughts round the two entrance doors.

Probably doesnt help that the gas boiler is an old style non condensing one of 30 years age but then I can offset no maintenance costs against the high costs of the modern electronified types

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Howard, that is similar to the icing up of roads.
Bridges can be icy and the solid road not. The bridge has cold air under it to add to the cooling. Also the localised cooling that a river adds to. Hence early morning mist in valleys with rivers.


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Originally Posted By rainbowj
We were pushed to buy diesel, use plastic to wrap food for hygiene and storage, take vitamin supplements - this list is long - only to be told later that it was detrimental to health or the environment.


I cant remember any of those "pushes". I cant help but think that mostly we like to blame someone else for the choices we make ourselves in this free country.

I have always been able to buy petrol engined cars and two out of our three are petrol. I bought a diesel family car because I knew from the laws of thermodynamics that a higher compression ratio woiuld make for more effeiciency and lower fiuel costs. As for p[lastic wrapped food, I chose that because it is more hygenic in the main but I do see a lot of waste / excess packaging which annoys the inner Yorkshireman. Vitamin pills? We have had endless publicity for decades saying that they werent necessary on a balanced diet and in truth I have never taken any. Still havent caught beri beri either.

Had the government been pushing these things my reaction would have been to refuse to follow instructions. Just like with speed limits, I use my own judgement not the governments.

All that sounds really pompous doesnt it? But lets stop blaming government for thigs we decide to do urselves.

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The diesel push was by significantly lowering the VED on diesels compared to the near equivalent model with a petrol engine.


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Originally Posted By howard
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We were pushed to buy diesel, use plastic to wrap food for hygiene and storage, take vitamin supplements - this list is long - only to be told later that it was detrimental to health or the environment.


I cant remember any of those "pushes". I cant help but think that mostly we like to blame someone else for the choices we make ourselves in this free country.

I have always been able to buy petrol engined cars and two out of our three are petrol. I bought a diesel family car because I knew from the laws of thermodynamics that a higher compression ratio woiuld make for more effeiciency and lower fiuel costs. As for p[lastic wrapped food, I chose that because it is more hygenic in the main but I do see a lot of waste / excess packaging which annoys the inner Yorkshireman. Vitamin pills? We have had endless publicity for decades saying that they werent necessary on a balanced diet and in truth I have never taken any. Still havent caught beri beri either.

Had the government been pushing these things my reaction would have been to refuse to follow instructions. Just like with speed limits, I use my own judgement not the governments.

All that sounds really pompous doesnt it? But lets stop blaming government for thigs we decide to do urselves.


I chose diesel for economy and torque for towing even though the government wanted me to have diesel to reduce co2. I can see a point in the future that tax on non ev vehicles will be prohibitive and then how will you have freedlm of choice.


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Originally Posted By rainbowj
I can see a point in the future that tax on non ev vehicles will be prohibitive and then how will you have freedlm of choice.


It has always been the case that choice is a luxury reserved for the rich. As we become poorer, our choices become fewer.

Government policy reflects the wishes of society, and the 'polluter pays' principle reflects the prevailing mood that in general, people should not continue to pollute our environment - hence the tax restricting your choice. Seems fair enough to me.


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