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It does look very good.

One question which may be obvious to some (but not to me).

How does approval of a roll cage work?
Is some form of certification required or is it all up to each scrutineer?


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Originally Posted By Paul F
It does look very good.

One question which may be obvious to some (but not to me).

How does approval of a roll cage work?
Is some form of certification required or is it all up to each scrutineer?


Hi Paul

Roll cage certification works in a number of ways

To compete in any race or rally your roll cage will need to comply with either MSA or FIA regulations. (Effectively, the MSA is governed by the FIA so if a roll cage design complies with FIA regulations, then it is also eligible for MSA events). There are some instances where the FIA allow certain design features where the MSA do not (and vice versa).
A roll cage design must comply with the MSA/FIA technical regulations published in the MSA Blue book. It is the competitor’s responsibility to ensure his/her roll cage complies with the technical regulations appropriate to the event they are competing in.
The certification process generally allows for a lighter roll cage because it is a bespoke design where the diameter and thickness of each tube is optimised to achieve the overall strength required by the FIA/MSA rules.
In order to compete in MSA/FIA events every vehicle, which has a certificated design of roll cage, should have a copy of a valid certificate to present at scrutineering. The company I use certify all of their roll cages. All roll cages comply with MSA/FIA regulations and receive a Letter of Conformity for competitors to present to scrutineers.
To obtain a certificate for a self-fit roll cage, the installer must complete a weld test.

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Originally Posted By Chunky4/4Racer
Originally Posted By Paul F
It does look very good.

One question which may be obvious to some (but not to me).

How does approval of a roll cage work?
Is some form of certification required or is it all up to each scrutineer?


Hi Paul

Roll cage certification works in a number of ways

To compete in any race or rally your roll cage will need to comply with either MSA or FIA regulations. (Effectively, the MSA is governed by the FIA so if a roll cage design complies with FIA regulations, then it is also eligible for MSA events). There are some instances where the FIA allow certain design features where the MSA do not (and vice versa).
A roll cage design must comply with the MSA/FIA technical regulations published in the MSA Blue book. It is the competitor’s responsibility to ensure his/her roll cage complies with the technical regulations appropriate to the event they are competing in.
The certification process generally allows for a lighter roll cage because it is a bespoke design where the diameter and thickness of each tube is optimised to achieve the overall strength required by the FIA/MSA rules.
In order to compete in MSA/FIA events every vehicle, which has a certificated design of roll cage, should have a copy of a valid certificate to present at scrutineering. The company I use certify all of their roll cages. All roll cages comply with MSA/FIA regulations and receive a Letter of Conformity for competitors to present to scrutineers.
To obtain a certificate for a self-fit roll cage, the installer must complete a weld test.


Many thanks. That makes sense. Now I understand how it will work for your E21.


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Today I took a trip out from the workshop to visit the BMW!!




The Tillett carbon fibre seats were installed






Work on the hole in the passenger B pillar had progressed



I hope you like what you're seeing.


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Lawrie, all impressing work! What do you think when she is ready. Would you like to drive Nürbrgring Nordschleife also? If so PM me when you plan to do so. I would like so see your car there in action.


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Lawrie, all impressing work! What do you think when she is ready. Would you like to drive Nürbrgring Nordschleife also? If so PM me when you plan to do so. I would like so see your car there in action.


We want to be out testing her by mid- late summer this year.

I don't think she will be going to the ring, but never say never.


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Engine update time peeps.

18 Air horns were purchased, 6 of each length. Basically different lengths of the air horns produce different characteristics when mapping. Short length for power, long for making torque. We will play about when on the engine dyno to see what makes the best. All of them are the same diameter which is 45mm.




These are the 3x pairs of the 45mm individual throttle bodies we have had made & will use.




6x Bosch 440cc sized fuel injectors.



Lastly here is the pics of the engine after a dummy build this morning. We checked that the intake ports on all parts (throttle bodies, inlet manifold & on the head) before the top end was removed to have all 3 parts are ported together.



In this pic you can see the billet aluminium alternator I've had made by Wos Performance.



Bear in mind this was a dummy build of components. Th engine will now get stripped down, components rechecked.
The engine will look totally different once finished.

The exhaust system in the pics wont be used. A new system will be designed as a one off for this engine.

I hope you all like, again any questions please ask.


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Shiny ally trumpets! smile
Missed the bit when the seats went in, so catching up.
How much lighter is the new alternator, compared to a standard one?


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Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Shiny ally trumpets! smile
Missed the bit when the seats went in, so catching up.
How much lighter is the new alternator, compared to a standard one?


Graham I will find out the weight difference for you, I am actually intrigued myself now.


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A little update for ya....

Began trial fitting the new bespoke motorsport coolant radiator. This still has a little way to go until I'm happy with the end fitment.



Fabricated up a new rear parcel shelf & rear bulk head panel. As you can see, this has been moved further back from the original position, this has made the top of the rear suspension turrets accessible inside the passenger compartment. This was done for a number of reasons.




This little fella has sprouted up!



Oh the 'B' pillar hole on the passenger side, had something added today... A little bit more fettling is required until I'm happy but you get the idea.



Hope you like.


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